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Porcupine_I on 01 August 2012

That's the problem with how fast the world changes these days, if you have to invest several years of dev time, a otherwise lucrative business model may be outdated or overrun by competitors when you are done.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

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YukanaSenix on 01 August 2012
non-gravity said:
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect 3
Star Wars the Old Republic

Well done Bioware


Its sad people still believe in Bioware
Bioware had 2 lucky shots with ME 1 and DA...after that they went downhill with every game.
DA2 was a complete disaster and ME 2 and 3 turned into Gears of War without Blood and a bad ending.

And please don't say its EAs fault cause DICE created with Battlefield 3 the best FPS in this Gen under their name.
Bioware is just bad - admit it finally.

Oh and LOL@ SWTOR
I bought it while it was still a preorder - I were able to play it on the 1st day of the headstart - I think that was around 1 week before the actual release.
I reached LEvel 50 3 days after i started playing - I cleared the complete PvE Content with my guys(good WoW guild who cleared all Deathwing hardmodes while they still mattered) in just 2-3 weeks and we dominated the Realm in PvP for a whole month...
A whole month cause then the free month was over - We did all quit cause there was nothing to do.

The Story is crap - No one cared.
The gameplay sucked ass - It felt like a Beta from the Classic World of Warcraft...but much worse.It was slow and boring.
The graphics were nice but nothing special in the times of a Final Fantasy 14 and Tera Online.
It had nothing to even touch World of Warcraft.They clearly tried to get the attention of Classic WoW Fans but you can't do that in these times.Especially not if you do it that wrong.

Its sad i fell for the "IT CAN KILL WoW" Hype cause of some crap like Star Wars and Bioware(then i still believed somehow in them) behind it.
Servers were dead 3 weeks after release...A game in 2011/12 without a Dungeon Finder and PvP completely server internal?Stupid?Especially with a game where no one knows if it will be succesful?Bioware didn't think at all.I think there were a lot Realms  with under 400 players to the best times in the evening and on the weekend...This is insane...Not even the worst MMORPG before that had such bad numbers.
I wasted nearly a whole month of my life for a game that didn't even touch 1 minute of World of Warcraft.



vlad321 on 01 August 2012
Panama said:
All they had to do was get Kotors gameplay and create a persistent world around it. Going free to play so early is pretty much EA admitting it's a complete failure. Too WoW for Kotor fans, not WoW enough for WoW fans.


That won't work too well. KOTOR is a dumbed down NWN, which in turn is a computerization of D&D 3.5. It's not exactly MMO material (Though... NWN was the sickest game I coudl ever think of as D&D. And with a 64 player server limit it was damn near MMO-like, so I guess it's a good idea).



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TeddostheFireKing on 01 August 2012
YukanaSenix said:
non-gravity said:
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect 3
Star Wars the Old Republic

Well done Bioware


Its sad people still believe in Bioware
Bioware had 2 lucky shots with ME 1 and DA...after that they went downhill with every game.
DA2 was a complete disaster and ME 2 and 3 turned into Gears of War without Blood and a bad ending.

And please don't say its EAs fault cause DICE created with Battlefield 3 the best FPS in this Gen under their name.
Bioware is just bad - admit it finally.

Oh and LOL@ SWTOR
I bought it while it was still a preorder - I were able to play it on the 1st day of the headstart - I think that was around 1 week before the actual release.
I reached LEvel 50 3 days after i started playing - I cleared the complete PvE Content with my guys(good WoW guild who cleared all Deathwing hardmodes while they still mattered) in just 2-3 weeks and we dominated the Realm in PvP for a whole month...
A whole month cause then the free month was over - We did all quit cause there was nothing to do.

The Story is crap - No one cared.
The gameplay sucked ass - It felt like a Beta from the Classic World of Warcraft...but much worse.It was slow and boring.
The graphics were nice but nothing special in the times of a Final Fantasy 14 and Tera Online.
It had nothing to even touch World of Warcraft.They clearly tried to get the attention of Classic WoW Fans but you can't do that in these times.Especially not if you do it that wrong.

Its sad i fell for the "IT CAN KILL WoW" Hype cause of some crap like Star Wars and Bioware(then i still believed somehow in them) behind it.
Servers were dead 3 weeks after release...A game in 2011/12 without a Dungeon Finder and PvP completely server internal?Stupid?Especially with a game where no one knows if it will be succesful?Bioware didn't think at all.I think there were a lot Realms  with under 400 players to the best times in the evening and on the weekend...This is insane...Not even the worst MMORPG before that had such bad numbers.
I wasted nearly a whole month of my life for a game that didn't even touch 1 minute of World of Warcraft.

Although I admit, Mass Effect 3's ending was poor, in every other regard, people loved it. Mass Effect 2 was also enjoyed by nearly all who played it and if you think ME1 had good combat, you need to replay that game.

With the Old Republic, I definitely found myself enjoying the Sith Juggernaut story immensely :)

And Bioware will always have a great place in my heart after KotoR, so a wonderful game.

I never played any Dragon Age games, so i can't comment on them.



S.Peelman on 01 August 2012

This better be the end of all the subscription nonsense.

On a side note, they should've just made KOTOR3, but no EA thought they could make big bucks making an MMO. Too bad Bioware fell for it, I just hope LucasArts didn't take too much damage from this. They would've made way more money with KOTOR3, and everyone would've been happier.

Lesson learned I hope.



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Sal.Paradise on 01 August 2012



Thechalkblock on 01 August 2012

and because of this new business practice i may try the game out



Scoobes on 01 August 2012
YukanaSenix said:
non-gravity said:
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect 3
Star Wars the Old Republic

Well done Bioware


Its sad people still believe in Bioware
Bioware had 2 lucky shots with ME 1 and DA...after that they went downhill with every game.
DA2 was a complete disaster and ME 2 and 3 turned into Gears of War without Blood and a bad ending.

And please don't say its EAs fault cause DICE created with Battlefield 3 the best FPS in this Gen under their name.
Bioware is just bad - admit it finally.

Oh and LOL@ SWTOR
I bought it while it was still a preorder - I were able to play it on the 1st day of the headstart - I think that was around 1 week before the actual release.
I reached LEvel 50 3 days after i started playing - I cleared the complete PvE Content with my guys(good WoW guild who cleared all Deathwing hardmodes while they still mattered) in just 2-3 weeks and we dominated the Realm in PvP for a whole month...
A whole month cause then the free month was over - We did all quit cause there was nothing to do.

The Story is crap - No one cared.
The gameplay sucked ass - It felt like a Beta from the Classic World of Warcraft...but much worse.It was slow and boring.
The graphics were nice but nothing special in the times of a Final Fantasy 14 and Tera Online.
It had nothing to even touch World of Warcraft.They clearly tried to get the attention of Classic WoW Fans but you can't do that in these times.Especially not if you do it that wrong.

Its sad i fell for the "IT CAN KILL WoW" Hype cause of some crap like Star Wars and Bioware(then i still believed somehow in them) behind it.
Servers were dead 3 weeks after release...A game in 2011/12 without a Dungeon Finder and PvP completely server internal?Stupid?Especially with a game where no one knows if it will be succesful?Bioware didn't think at all.I think there were a lot Realms  with under 400 players to the best times in the evening and on the weekend...This is insane...Not even the worst MMORPG before that had such bad numbers.
I wasted nearly a whole month of my life for a game that didn't even touch 1 minute of World of Warcraft.

2 lucky shots? That's ignoring the sheer number of quality games released before them.

And the entire Mass Effect trilogy is highly regarded. Just because ME3 had a weird ending does not make it a bad game. In terms of gameplay, the shooting mechanics were horrible in Mass Effect 1 and greatly improved in 2 & furthermore in 3. The mechanics in the first game were worse than those in Alpha Protocol. I also think you're forgetting the ridiculously long elevator rides

As for Dragon Age 2, there are positives to take from the game. They did a lot of things wrong with that iteration but the story and characters were an interesting take in a genre of generic save-the-world type storylines.

Can't comment on TOR but I'll be giving it a go.




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Scoobes on 01 August 2012

Not that surprising really. I'll be giving it a go now though.




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mitlar37 on 01 August 2012
YukanaSenix said:
non-gravity said:
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect 3
Star Wars the Old Republic

Well done Bioware


Its sad people still believe in Bioware
Bioware had 2 lucky shots with ME 1 and DA...after that they went downhill with every game.
DA2 was a complete disaster and ME 2 and 3 turned into Gears of War without Blood and a bad ending.

And please don't say its EAs fault cause DICE created with Battlefield 3 the best FPS in this Gen under their name.
Bioware is just bad - admit it finally.

Oh and LOL@ SWTOR
I bought it while it was still a preorder - I were able to play it on the 1st day of the headstart - I think that was around 1 week before the actual release.
I reached LEvel 50 3 days after i started playing - I cleared the complete PvE Content with my guys(good WoW guild who cleared all Deathwing hardmodes while they still mattered) in just 2-3 weeks and we dominated the Realm in PvP for a whole month...
A whole month cause then the free month was over - We did all quit cause there was nothing to do.

The Story is crap - No one cared.
The gameplay sucked ass - It felt like a Beta from the Classic World of Warcraft...but much worse.It was slow and boring.
The graphics were nice but nothing special in the times of a Final Fantasy 14 and Tera Online.
It had nothing to even touch World of Warcraft.They clearly tried to get the attention of Classic WoW Fans but you can't do that in these times.Especially not if you do it that wrong.

Its sad i fell for the "IT CAN KILL WoW" Hype cause of some crap like Star Wars and Bioware(then i still believed somehow in them) behind it.
Servers were dead 3 weeks after release...A game in 2011/12 without a Dungeon Finder and PvP completely server internal?Stupid?Especially with a game where no one knows if it will be succesful?Bioware didn't think at all.I think there were a lot Realms  with under 400 players to the best times in the evening and on the weekend...This is insane...Not even the worst MMORPG before that had such bad numbers.
I wasted nearly a whole month of my life for a game that didn't even touch 1 minute of World of Warcraft.

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