I like how people are more concerned about pointing at Sony's losses rather than look at the explanation of why they might have happened.

Technically, it would, because all those japanese games probably wouldn't go to a microsoft platform.

Yea I read the entire post. Doesn't change the fact you made a laughable point that is beyond embarassing to try and make. 

I think most people are aware that some of this loss will be due to PS4 R&D but that in no way changes the fact that SCE has posted almost non-stop losses this generation. You are making out like the losses are some abnormality. 

Also I LOVE how you say people are more concerned about pointing out Sony's losses whereas you are trying to explain them.... You are actively trying to spin the information. Instead of looking at the whole picture you have expressely buried your head in the sand and said ONLY TWO YEARS COUNT! So how about in your next post you gather the information for SCE since the beginning of the PS3 and then go ahead and explain those losses. 

It's good that you LOVE my common sense.

Yes, SCE posted losses continously but then it also posted profits continously for two years, if YOU want to ignore that, then I can't help it. I am not spinning anything more like you guys are twisting my words.

I can probably explain all of their losses too, it's just that most intelligent people know that by now. No one said only two years count, but I like how you guys think only overall losses count when we are talking about just one year.

Yeah, this was the statement. "WHEN PEOPLE SAY"

Ridiculous huh? Let's see. When people say SCE is profitable they are talking about the last two years, and the current situation. You conveniently go back to the starting years of PS3 to say that those people are wrong. Further you don't acknowledge R&D costs, but do so only when I press you about it.

So what does that say about you? It's pretty clear that you are more interested in Sony's losses rather than why this was an exception in the last 2-3 years. Yes, it is an exception, you guys are trying to spin it into something that points at the PS3 and Vita for losses, when it clearly is not.

Here's the thing, though, mantlepiecek:  one good year does not a sustainable business make.  Especially when that one good year's profits are combined with the bigger picture that entails 1) the unit overall is still GREATLY in the red despite the successes of previous generations, 2) the resurgent PS3 is still in a 3rd place market position for this generation, 3) as of now the newly launched PS Vita does not look like it will return the unit to profitability and lastly 4) the overall financial health of Sony Corporation.

By definition alone, your complaint is cherry picking.  It's sitting the middle of a burning building at night and feeling good because at least you have some light.  And to demean others who see the overall health of the company and sustainability of the SCE unit as INTREGAL to having a future Playstation in their lives is dangerous denial of the realities that we are right in front of you.

The topic of this thread is not good news.  It may not be in the end of the world, but it is NOT good news and to present it in any way as such is borderline delusional.  For the record, nothing personal, man.  And I genuinely mean that.

How does explaining the losses mean it isn't a problem though? You are saying people are saying Sony are doomed while ignoring the fact that some of the losses are due to PS4 R&D (Btw not all the losses will be). I pointed out that that isn't the only reason that SCE has been losing money for a long time. You then say you can explain why it's losing money.... so erm great? Is that how business works now? Oh hey we have had operating losses for years but we can explain them so..... no biggie right? 

Which two years of continous profit? I am looking at the financial sheet now. In FY2008 they get rolled into CP&S so it's kinda hard to tell. However CP&S has only one year of profit which is FY2010. FY2011 was a loss for CP&S overall and with the information today we know FY2011 is a loss for SCE too. CP&S posted an operating loss in FY2009 and FY2008. In FY 2007 it is clearly visible as the Game division and FY2007 is a loss and FY2006 (first with the PS3) is also a loss. 

EDIT: For anyone wondering I will post the figures. Information is from Sony Investor relations historical data. As I said FY2006 and 2007 it is noted as the Game division while Fy2008 and on is CP&S. For FY2011 I will use the publically available information from the goverment website. 
All figures are in millions of yen. Brackets show loss.
FY2006 - (232,325)
FY2007 - (124,526)
FY2008 - (115,078)
FY2009 - (53,174)
FY2010 - 10,817
FY2011 - (94,374)

Expecting the company to make profits when they will obviously be investing money on PS4 R&D is a bit silly, that is all I wanted to say.

I think it's a bit silly to attribute a 1.2 billion dollar loss exclusively on R&D.