Could cost more! 

Seen as how many people think it'll have an Alien sort of affect on technology meaning it'll be ridiculously strong, correct?

Hopefully Sony won't go down that route though, for their sake.

No, no, it will be alien technology at 300$ and budled with Uncharted 5
Lol.

I said I wasn't sure about what TLOU engine was titled, you're right though, shouldn't of coupled an estimation in with fact without proper explanation. But looking at what ND said (in the link I provided) you can tell the visual difference is tiny. 

And I haven't pretended to know what ND is doing. Seriously dude, it was in the link I gave you. They describe the changes to the engine. It shows plenty of info, specifically about the updates to the engine.

Please admit that the visual difference is tiny, It's getting harder and harder for Devs to push the consoles further and further. Uncharted to Uncharted 2 was a giant leap, Uncharted 2 to Uncharted 3 is a moderate leap, Uncharted 3 to TLOU is a small leap. At least bloody acknowledge that, it shows how the consoles are indeed hitting a wall. 

I'm confident that the PS4 and Xbox 3 will debut at E3 next year.

MS might push for a holiday 2013 release if that 2 year old leaked document is to be believed accurate but I'm not sure how they can launch a $300 machine with kinect and be up to 6x as powerful without taking a loss per system and/or risking faulty hardware. A $50-$100 loss might be what it's looking like. MS can do it so I wouldn't be surprised. Releasing year of and during the holiday would generate good buzz in their biggest markets the US/EU. Buzz they will need since the 360 is lossing sales strength, a new system could be justified in 2013.

Sony will come last but by less than year, getting a headstart of the holiday season in spring or late summer 2014. They don't want to wait too long after the Xbox 3 to launch but economically there might be good reason to wait even longer. The PS3 has strong sales for an old console in the off season and could indicate continuing sales even through 2013/2014. Sony could hold off till holiday 2014 which would ensure them more time for there company to strengthen from its transition and their big developers to provide blockbuster launch titles they would need to pull off a late launch. Releasing earlier would force them to reduce the hardware capabilities and risk being outgunned next gen by MS ability to throw money into the Xbox 3. Sony would be better off leveraging themselves against the Wii U for multiplats with PS3 than to release PS4 early just to be competing with PS3 on top of next gen systems. The PS4 will need to be at least as powerful as the Xbox 3 and they won't pull that off by jumping the gun and risking one of the few profitable divisions they have.

It will be interesting to see if PS4 or Xbox 3 will be the more powerful/better machine. MS has the money while Sony has the time.

According to ND, TLOU has better lightning effects and more detailed character models than U3. they have optimized their engine a little bit after U3.

Nah uh....... 

Andrespetmonkey says and knows better than Naughty Dog....  Nah uh.

TLOU looks definitely better than UC3 but i dont see any significant leap...and we wont be seeing it until next gen comes

Then coming from Sony it means gaming quality.

I don't now why people complain about a console for $599 at launch, knowing that this console will be supported by first and third games for the next 6 years+, but I don't see something like this when I look at smartphones, I see people buying IPhones for $499-$599 at launch and replacing it with a new model 1 year later for the same price with a smile on their faces.

It means nothing of the sort. Every generation has ALWAYS been a "significant leap". PS1 and N64 to Dreamcast/PS2/Xbox and Gamecube was a massive leap and so was this gen, excluding Nintendo. What Sony is saying is that they're not going to release a Wii U console. They're going to do what they, and the industry, has always done. That's a GOOD thing.

The only reason the PS3 was so expensive is because of the Blu-Ray drive. If that system went DVD, it would have been $400.00 like the 360.