killeryoshis said:
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We all know how this is possible for any console, even the 3DS. The Wii has shown us it's possible for a leader to crash and burn.
killeryoshis said:
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We all know how this is possible for any console, even the 3DS. The Wii has shown us it's possible for a leader to crash and burn.
Gilgamesh said:
We all know how this is possible for any console, even the 3DS. The Wii has shown us it's possible for a leader to crash and burn. |
But not to the point that it is overtaken. You're also overstating the concept of "crash and burn"
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
I'm sure Nintendo won't mind having Wii like success with the Wii U
I think most local multiplayer games will use the Wii remotes, I don't see developers making heavy use of the system's capability of two gamepads. I don't think it would feel like next gen to me if I'm still using the Wiimote
Been away for a bit, but sneaking back in.
Gaming on: PS4, PC, 3DS. Got a Switch! Mainly to play Smash
Gilgamesh said:
We all know how this is possible for any console, even the 3DS. The Wii has shown us it's possible for a leader to crash and burn. |
Of course it is possible that it can crash. But its also possible for the 3DS to go sky high. 3DS hasn't even had a redesign or pokemon or 2D mario released yet and it is destroying vita right now. You really expect vita to suddenly start selling and 3DS for no reason to crash? Also like MrKhan said wii built a huge gap that ps3 or 360 won't overtake it. 3DS will do the same but whether it crashes is a matter to debate
PS wii from 2009 to 2010 went to a steady decline. 2011 was crash but only because nintendo reveled wii u that year and wii had a huge drought of games.
killeryoshis said: Last time gilgamesh made a prediction (3ds vs Vita) it went terribly wrong. So I am coming at this with a opposite view. I believe Nintendo actually did a good job on the hardware and will attract lots of 3rd party support. I believe it is Sony and Microsoft that shot themselves on the foot. They now allowed Nintendo to have a head start. History shows that head starts are very deadly and even led to domination in some generations. If wii u does come dead on arrival it will have time to pick up and if it does oh my the competition is screwed! |
Since the gaming crash of '83 and gaming's "rebirth", the only system to launch first and be the market leader was the NES.
4th Gen
Genesis - ~40M (released Oct '88)
SNES - 49.1M (released Nov '90)
5th Gen
Saturn - 9.5M (released Nov '94)
PS1 - 102.49M (released Dec '94)
6th Gen
Dreamcast - 10.6M (released Nov '98)
PS2 - 154.4M (released Mar '00)
7th Gen
360 - 67.2M (released Nov '05)
Wii - 95.85M (released Nov '06)
An interesting thing to note is that the person who launches 2nd, since the NES, is the one who has won the gen. If rumors prove true, Sony is planning to launch 2nd next gen. I wonder if history will repeat itself. Well, technically the PS3 launched 2nd this gen, but since the Wii launched just a few days after I'd consider them both launching 2nd.
I agree. Lame. Did you see the last Zelda? The graphics were worse! than Ocarina. Only a child would play it. How disappointing. I guess they have to get out of the adult game market or be driven into bankrupty by Microsoft, like what's happening to Sony.
BasilZero said:
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I've been thinking this, too. It's strange they didn't reveal any of that info at E3, even though we have only 4-5 months before they would be releasing it. Unless they're going to be releasing this info casually in a week or so (which just won't have the same impact as an E3 announcement would) or if they're going to drop the bomb just a month or so before release (which seems like a mistake to me and could backfire), then a Q1 2013 release is looking more likely to me.
thismeintiel said:
I've been thinking this, too. It's strange they didn't reveal any of that info at E3, even though we have only 4-5 months before they would be releasing it. Unless they're going to be releasing this info casually in a week or so (which just won't have the same impact as an E3 announcement would) or if they're going to drop the bomb just a month or so before release (which seems like a mistake to me and could backfire), then a Q1 2013 release is looking more likely to me. |
That's how it was with Wii. Release date and price information, as well as the solidified launch lineup, was not released at E3 2006 but rather at an event Nintendo called "Worldwide Wii Day," September 14th, 2006, which is also where they revealed the Wii channel system and details on the Wii Shop and Wii online. E3, for them, was all about proof of concept in real games, and while they showed a more extensive first party lineup there, basic details were thin on the ground, but everything was in place for a holiday launch.
Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
killeryoshis said:
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It did however need almost a $100 price cut within the first few months of release, don't forget about that ;)