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Attoyou said:
Too bad, ipad is worth the money, and i used to be one of the people screaming its just a big iphone, Worth every penny.


I disagree,but I personally have no use for a Ipad/labtop/tablet. lol



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oldschoolfool said:
man-bear-pig said:


It is worth about £5,000 to me. It does EVERYTHING and it never leaves my side. Everyone I know who has an iPad is the same, they never leave it down, and it provides them with countless hours of music, movies, internet surfing, easy access to emails, apps to suit your every imaginable need...and everything else. 


Do you take it to the bathroom with you,when you have to take a whizz? Do you shower with it? lol


Who doesn't shower with it?


and I actually take my ipad to the toilet all the time.. nothing better then taking a shit and surfing on this site..



 

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oldschoolfool said:
Attoyou said:
Too bad, ipad is worth the money, and i used to be one of the people screaming its just a big iphone, Worth every penny.


I disagree,but I personally have no use for a Ipad/labtop/tablet. lol

Its so useful and easy to just pick up and do whatever with. Now i have no use for a laptop and less use for a PC.



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NiKKoM said:
oldschoolfool said:
man-bear-pig said:


It is worth about £5,000 to me. It does EVERYTHING and it never leaves my side. Everyone I know who has an iPad is the same, they never leave it down, and it provides them with countless hours of music, movies, internet surfing, easy access to emails, apps to suit your every imaginable need...and everything else. 


Do you take it to the bathroom with you,when you have to take a whizz? Do you shower with it? lol


Who doesn't shower with it?


and I actually take my ipad to the toilet all the time.. nothing better then taking a shit and surfing on this site..


that's just over-kill for me. I don't love any device that much. hahaha.



Attoyou said:
Too bad, ipad is worth the money, and i used to be one of the people screaming its just a big iphone, Worth every penny.

I don't know if it's funny or sad that one can own a device that they didn't even know was that useful or essential prior to owning one, but the iPad does tend to fall into that category for many of its owners.

If nothing else, they will make a lot of users realize just how many of their essential PC tasks don't have to be tethered to laptop, much less a desktop PC.



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greenmedic88 said:

I don't think anyone was under the impression that iOS multitasks the same way as OSx or Windows. The point was that it does multitask within the memory constraints of a tablet. These same memory restrictions exist for any Android tablet, even though it manages tasks differently. The downside of the Android approach is that without manual control of a task manager, power management takes an unnecessary hit for all apps that don't need to run in the background, which is the majority of all tablet apps.

According to the several articles I read, there is no need to close any apps in iOS 5.1, contrary to what the typical Apple Genius is telling customers. I'll put that to test by not closing anything over the next week, even if it means having dozens of "recently run apps" in the pull up menu.

The memory stat utility in Desktop contradicts the claims though, meaning manually closing apps in the "recently run apps" menu does in fact free up memory.

Previous mobile OS, like Symbian or WM, have multi-tasked in a similar fashion to the PC market. And by multi-tasking you think of processes running simultaneously. I understand why the current method is used in mobile devices, but I would not call it multi-tasking just resuming.

About the memory used, I think the recent list uses some memory for caching the icon images and names, just like iOS does this for its multiple screens. Tell us how your test goes, I'm sure it does use some memory, but is it negligible?



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For those interested, here's the device RichardHutnik got:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12429602

though it's cheaper on Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/Sylvania-SYNET7LP-7-Inch-Tablet-Black/dp/B004GKM60W


As for iPad vs Other Tablets, there's absolutely nothing that any type of iPad can do that one of the dozens of Android tablets out there can't do, but there ARE things that some Android tablets can do that iPads cannot.

For instance, how many iPads out there have removable storage? How many iPads have 128GB storage? How many first-party iPad keyboards are there?

If you want full-featured tablets, you're going to want to go with a high-end Android tablet. You'll pay about the same as an iPad, but you'll get more features.

But if you don't want those features and maybe instead want a larger community with a wider spectrum of third-party accessories, then iPad's for you.

But if you don't want to pay a billion dollars and are willing to sacrifice some relatively minor features (front camera, screen size, screen resolution, possibly a little power, or (on the ultra-cheap models), multitouch screen), then a cheaper Android tablet will be for you.



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TomaTito said:

Previous mobile OS, like Symbian or WM, have multi-tasked in a similar fashion to the PC market. And by multi-tasking you think of processes running simultaneously. I understand why the current method is used in mobile devices, but I would not call it multi-tasking just resuming.

About the memory used, I think the recent list uses some memory for caching the icon images and names, just like iOS does this for its multiple screens. Tell us how your test goes, I'm sure it does use some memory, but is it negligible?

Apps can and do run in the background (are executing code, using CPU cycles and memory) but few are coded to do so. It's just not efficient given the limited resources of modern tablets. Plus, the general idea of a tablet is not to ape the PC experience, nor design it around user upgraded hardware specifications. As wasteful as it sounds, tablets really are devices more or less designed to be chucked or replaced every 2-3 years; that's the user's hardware upgrade. 

But back to iOS. The invisible to the user hierarchy goes from active app (running onscreen in foreground), inactive (device in sleep mode, app in foreground), background (still executing code, using CPU cycles and memory), suspended (in memory, not executing code) and finally, not running (not launched or terminated). Most apps running in background quickly transistion to suspended, barring those specifically coded to continue running in background. From what I can observe by terminating apps via the multitask "apps recenly opened" menu, effectively force quits any running app regardless of state. Suspended apps terminated in such a manner immediately free up memory as observed with a memory tracking utility. But the iOS memory manager automatically terminates apps, purging them from suspended as needed. Once memory resources approach capacity, iOS takes control in determining which apps to purge from memory. Apps returning to the "not running" state remain in the "recently opened" menu along with any background or suspended apps.

I'm sure there are enough users who would like to know the status of any recently opened apps in the menu to warrant indicator additions in later iOS iterations, but the reality is, none of that actually matters to 99% of all iOS users, and not because they're not "power users" but because iOS was engineered and designed to manage memory and CPU resources automatically. 



That is the model, and it does the job for me. Is it perfect? No way. But it does the job. It is advanced enough to read PDFs.