I only questioned his taste in regards to Watchmen and Sin City.

I only referred to his age when talking about "teh mostest hyped movie of all time, The Avengers". A 17 year old doesn't have much of a frame of reference when talking about "movie hype" since anything pre-2007 happened before he was even a teenager.

Did you even bother to read our conversation before piping in?

^Hey don't insult all of us 30+ on this forum. That's just as bad as someone insulting a 17yr old. And let's be honest Avatar wasn't a crapfest. It's just people like to hate on it now the way my generation liked to hate on Titanic when it came out, because those two films were aimed at the mass market, not us, and did so well. Avatar may not have had a great story, but it sure was a visual orgasm. Both Avengers and Avatar are the only two films I have watched twice in theater since LotR: The Two Towers.

But I do agree with your statement that advertising, or lets just say marketing, brings in the majority of revenue. You can not get huge word of mouth quickly without first having a large marketing campaign drawing in the first audience. (Great reviews are not enough) If Disney/Marvel had not spent so much on marketing Avengers, then it would not be breaking records right now, though it is possible it could do so in the long run.

Obviously, marketing is important. My only point was that Avengers probably isn't the most hyped movie to ever hit theatres, as Mordred has claimed multiple times. Was it "hyped"? Oh, certainly. But not any more than any other first tier blockbuster movie.

If it was the most hyped of all time, it would have seen more theatre screenings than it did. Part of the marketing blitz is putting the movie in as many theatres as possible to maximize first weekend revenue. It didn't have the most screens. It isn't even in the top three in most screens.

Shit, if it was the most hyped movie of all time, Disney wouldn't have released it in early May. It would have seen a July release, which is considered peak movie time.

Good lord! 76 posts since I last checked this thread. You guys have been busy!

I did read it The thing is that we have a wonderfull new invention, that is called the internet. If you are interested, you CAN get plenty of info about movie release hype, waaaay before you where born Judging by Mordreds history, I think its a safe bet to assume that he actually has some clue about what hes talking about.

Reinvention of 3D... Im not sure that you are serious... Golly, I have watched the movie in 3D, yet I never beleieved that it was a reinvention of anything. Did it reignite the fad that is 3D screaning? Sure, but nothing more. Fantastic world? Well everyone has its own taste, so I cannot comment on that, needless to say, it didnt win me over. Its a fantastic IP, profit wise, and hats down to JC for creating a new cashcow He has tallent in that department.

It was aimed at the people over 30 I personally know, and nobody from VGC. I was just trying to proove a point, thats its just as bad as downplaying someone for his young age. I appolagise if it sounded offensive, it was not intended to be so

Hype is something you witness first-hand, not read about. I have an idea of what it was like to be around during the release of Star Wars because I've seen documentaries and read about it. But do I really know what it was like during that time? No, I do not. I have absolutely no frame of reference for what Star Wars was like compared to The Matrix or the prequels or Lord of the Rings. But I can compare the prequels, The Matrix, and Lord of the Rings to each other because I witnessed the hype and mania for each of those movies. I assume Star Wars mania was bigger than any of those movies but I don't really know for sure. Like anything else, people could be blowing it out of proportion.

You can go ahead and defend his argument (which he claimed with certainty, not leaving any room for doubt whatsoever) but those of us who have been around for awhile know better. He made a grandiose claim that The Avengers was undoubtedly the most hyped movie ever. I presented several points that contradicted that statement such as "it didn't release in the most theatres", "it didn't have the biggest opening day in history", and "Disney released it in early May, which is far from the peak season of Memorial Day through August". He ignored them. He's simply too young to know whether the The Phantom Menace was more hyped than The Avengers because he was four years old when it released, just as I cannot be sure where the original Star Wars falls on the hype scale. If he was using actual data to prove his point, his point might be more salient. He is making a factless claim made on historical observation, which is laughable coming from a 17 year old. That is the only reason I brought up his age. He is stating an opinion that is largely based on observational evidence drawn over a period of time. He is 17 years old. Do you see the problem with this?

The difference between me and Mordred is that I'm smart enough and honest enough to admit that I don't really know how hyped any movies were pre-1984 or so. And I'm certainly not going to claim that I know which movie was most hyped when I have no factual basis to do so.

Simple enough?

I enjoy it a lot BUT I read somewhere and I agree that the plot was thin on twists or surprises, the ending was predictable...
Actually, my pretty big disappointment with the film as the final battle unfolded was that the promised (and hoped for by me) super "Boot vs ant" invading army was LAAAMEEEE. I mean, they could easily die from small arms fire. WTF?

Hoping for more drama for the next one.

I'd say it's too early to make that judgement. Overall, I LOVED the Avengers. However, after I saw TDK, I had to rewatch it again that same weekend. The Avengers I will see again in theaters, but I've given it a couple weeks. Also, I know I loved TDK enough to watch it like 10 times over the past 3 years, I don't think I'll feel the need to do that for Avengers. Also, good as it was, I think I even rank it #3 behind TDK and X-Men: First Class. I consider First Class somewhat underrated.

But I will mention that I prefer time spent on plot and dialogue to explosions - so while the Avengers were good all-around, TDK and FIrst Class were better written (and acted) from the ground up. Not to take away from the acting of Avengers, which was also top notch.