Bwahahahahaha bitter much? Why should i have to do that for the life time of both consoles which is an impossible task anyway as Vgchartz is constantly changing their numbers and the only record of original numbers is from forum posts which don't stretch back that far. I've already proved that for months on end the 360 has been significantly overtracked compared to the ps3, what's your problem?

That's decent for Kid Icarus but Vita needs a high potion.

Do we have access to NPD LTD so we can compare? I'm sure we would have some curious numbers, with some undertrackez consoles not so undertrackez, and some overtrackedz consoles not so overtrackedz.

One word for the 3DS -- Pokemon. That will cause adoption to go up.

That happened about two years into the DS, which is why despite all of these descriptions of poor sales that NPD said the 3DS is 1M ahead of the pace of the DS at its same point in the lifestpan.

As for the next generation -- maybe Nintendo was smart in announcing in a way that short circuited not only its own declining sales but the sales of the opposition as well. And to those who think these sales mean domination by Microsoft and Sony, only time will tell but getting out first could be a good start for Nintendo or could only provide a cushion that gets caught (like Microsoft did this time).

Mike from Morgantown

In the weekend (On Sunday) I will turn the internet upside down and try to find all available NPD reports for this gen I can find, so you guys don't have to, and will compile them here.

So Cookingyourmama if we take just January onwards the difference is around 100k betrween the 2 agreed? That doesn't suggest too many issues of tracking being too far out when comparing the two. I would say that it actually suggest they could be both accurate when taking the 10% rule into effect. Thanks for the data though.

Just to clarify btw I shouldn't have asked you to include December that was my bad as holiday months tracking are often miles out due to the difficulties in tracking. Also I doubt the figures are that far out now after adjustments.

I'll leave the rest of you to discuss as I don't think I have much more input I want to give.

I'm pointing out the simple fact that time and time again on this site the ps3 gets undertracked compared to the 360 when in reality it has done much better, yet despite this a group of posters constantly make pro 360 posts trying to claim that some how the 360 is the one that is hard done by and there are way more people posting biased Sony stuff as well. I've been viewing this site since day one and the majority of the time the 360 gets overtracked compared to the ps3 and every few months adjustments have to be made to correct this. This past quarter is one of the few times the 360 was undertracked and the ps3 was overtracked.

If you take out December the difference is more like 150k~, but yeah it's not massive. The thing is tho all these few hundred here, and a few hundred thousand there all soon add up. I just had a quick look at the four months before December 2011 and during that period the 360 was overtracked by 7,000 whilst the ps3 was undertracked by 167,000, combine that with the four months after December and you're already talking about an imbalance of over 300,000 in the 360's favour.

That is of course assuming NPD are accurate, which again is another issue altogether people start going on about to suit their arguments.  I guess my point is that we're comparing estimates against estimates both of which get adjusted over time (in NPD's case they've been known to adjust up/down in the months after a mistake trying to fudge figures to look like they don't adjust as much).  It just seems crazy to get too serious about the figures other than use them as a general guide.

could it be thats just what the people want? is there something wrong with that? I felt the last battle field was a bit of a let down, after the last two bad companies, 

disclosure im not a fan of CoD (ive only owned CoD:WaW this gen)