Why cherry pick that one stat and present the data in that way? Why not just say the 360 is overtracked more than the ps3 this month yet again? It's the same old story.

And Europe isn't doing much better. It seems the market can't accept 7-8 years long generations, it reaches saturation in less years.

*sigh* you are flat out wrong. Case and point? After only a little over a year the 3DS has sold over 10million units in the West. Basically it's not going to take too long to beat the Gamecubes LTD. A system which Nintendo profited off heavily. Not only this but it is also outpacing the DS despite the 3DS having had only 1 holiday season while the DS had two by this point. Now there were 2 things that made the DS sales explode. The redesign and NSMB, a game which sold over 25 million copies. And hey guess what? The new one is coming this August. A redesign is also yet to come, although I think a revision is more likely (possibly one at E3. Think more PSP-1000 to 2000 differences)

Not only this but you are the one who can't spot trends. Remember handheld sales before the DS and PSP? The GBA practically had no competitors and only reached 82m worldwide. You want to know why handhelds are struggling? When the DS Lite launched with NSMB (when sales suddenly took off) do you know the price of the system? $130. Heck even when the original DS launched it was only $150. 

The PSP launched at $250 and it's sales died down very quickly and only picked up after a price drop and some big games. It's price dropped to $200 within a year iirc. 

Whereas the 3DS launched at $250 and is now $170. While the PSV launched at $270 ($250 launch price but a memory card is needed). The simple fact is both Nintendo and Sony made huge mistakes with trying to launch with too high a price. Once the 3DS reaches $150 it will do fine. For the Vita? Harder to judge. $150 would definitely help but it might be okay at $200 (memory included). Especially considering Nintendo and Sony BOTH conditioned consumers to wait to buy handhelds. Nintendo with their drastic redesign and Sony with their fast price drop. People are waiting on these price drops and revisions to hardware.

The 3DS is all but guaranteed to be a success in the West. The Vita? Well it depends on how fast Sony react. Now I'm not saying they will reach the market levels of the DS+PSP combo (over 220m) because that was simply a golden time for handhelds. However you would have to be insane to not see there is still a huge market there. The GBA only managed lifetime sales of 82m and the gameboy only around 120m. The DS and PSP years were simply a massive boom. The 3DS and Vita will have carved out a very nice market size when they stop selling. And all your posts are going to be incredibly laughable. It seems you think the handheld market can only exist if they manage to reach DS and PSP sales levels. Which is just absurd.

This is for a certain someone so we can stop being babies and throwing bias accusations around:

OMFG PS3 IS ONLY TEH TINY BIT OVERTRACK, BUT NPD IS WRONG, PS3 ACTUALLY OUTSOLD X360, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE MASSIVELY OVERTRACK BY BOTH VGC AND NPD!!!!

Can we move on now?

Sure because going to that exreme makes everything better....

P.S. Nice Halo/Master Chief sig. pics....

maybe because it isn't cherry picking to talk about the percentual change which shows much better the change of the success of a product/country/whatever?

if ford would lose 3% of customers and porsche would lose 60%, ford would have lost many more customers and you will tell me porsche's situation would be better because of that? no, porsche's situation would be worse, customers lost their interest much more in porsche than in ford even with a lower decline in sales numbers.

or compare usa with netherlands. if usa's gnp would grow 1.5 percent and netherlands would grow 15 percent, usa's would grow more in raw numbers, but who would have the better situation?

This year has been really slow for console sales, and yes i know im stating the obvious

Which is why I stated it was just my opinion.  Data generally seems to point the overall sales figures we have for 360 are about correct, the issue seems to be where those sales occur.  At the end of the day I said it was my opinion as it's marginal but I stand by the fact that I suspect we are undertracking in the EU and overtracking in the US.  Adjustments in the future are the only way to prove me right though.  Perhaps poor was the wrong word to use I conceed though, I should have just said "due to undertrakcing of EU sales for the 360 imo".

Don't be childish Cookingyourmama, someone liking a brand or game enough to use the art as a avatar doesn't instantly make their opinion stereotypically a certain type.  On the point you seem to be making that VG Chartz overtracks the 360 every month, could you post the last 5 months VG CHartz and NPD numbers for PS3 and 360 to prove your case please, I'm not so sure you have a point at all but I'll happily conceed if you're right.

That's just a strawman arguement, in this case the percentile change doesn't show how much vgchartz has overtracked the 360 compared to the ps3 any better then just posting the actual numbers.

This month in america vgchartz has overtracked the 360 by 52,000 which is 22% overtracked.

The ps3 is overtracked anything from 22,000 to 54,000 which is 11%-32% overtracked.

Using the actual real numbers the gap of overtracking is either roughly the same or in the Ps3's favour. Using the Percentile numbers it could be above, below or the same and nobody has a clue.

Wait, FIFA one of the buggiest games available, and you're talking trash about CoD? 

The reason why FIFA sells so well in Europe is because you folks like football (soccer).  A lot.  Like as in, we consider people on your level of like for something  mentally unstable and on the verge of insanity.  In Europe, they're just known as football fans.  In the US, when people live and breath their teams, they wear the colors, the gear, maybe fly a team flag, sport a bumper sticker on their car, or paint their house in team colors.  In Europe, people live and die by their teams, like litterally.  I doubt a day goes by in Europe that a fan of one football club isn't brutally attacked or killed by a fan of some other team.   In Scotland, they're having to have a referendum on bigotry in the Scottish Premier League because football fans there have turned it into a religious war between Catholics and Protestants.

So, mind what you say about how insane North American's are about First Person Shooters.  After all, Europeans seem to go ballistic for any slight offense against their football club.  If that isn't the definition of insanity, than I don't know what is.