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Can't wait to see Jack Tretton at E3 with his famous opening quote: "It has been a great year for PlayStation" or its variant "It has been a great year for the PlayStation family".

Anyways, I hope for Sony gamers that there will be tons of Vita games at E3.  Or else, it won't be such a great year for PS.



RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:

Honestly, I doubt there will be a redesign until after monster hunter 4 drops. Currently Capcom is making a boat load off of those hunks and there's probably a deal where Nintendo won't redeisgn until after MH4 so that Capcom can rape the consumers, and THEN nitendo will redesign :D.

What are you talking about? You make it sound like the Circle Pad Pro is a Capcom peripheral and also like Nintendo would deliberately hold back their worldwide 3DS business by not launching a redesign anytime soon.

Why would Nintendo spend R&D on a redesign to include more parts and circuitry when they're already losing money on each 3ds, and when they're making very good margin on the peripheral?

AS for the worldwide business, explain to me how the 3ds business hinges on having another analog built in. I can't see that being a main selling point to Nintendo's main audience.

As for the manufacturer, I have a strong feeling that the circle pad pro is part of the deal with Capcom. I mean, it was announced as a MH bundle accessory. Don't tell me you don't think there's any tomfoolery going on there.



Gilmour said:

Can't wait to see Jack Tretton at E3 with his famous opening quote: "It has been a great year for PlayStation" or its variant "It has been a great year for the PlayStation family".

Anyways, I hope for Sony gamers that there will be tons of Vita games at E3.  Or else, it won't be such a great year for PS.


IT has been a great year for the ps2 :P



Gilmour said:

Can't wait to see Jack Tretton at E3 with his famous opening quote: "It has been a great year for PlayStation" or its variant "It has been a great year for the PlayStation family".

Anyways, I hope for Sony gamers that there will be tons of Vita games at E3.  Or else, it won't be such a great year for PS.

I dont see how you can jump to that big of a conculsion -PS not having a great year based by the number of games released for the Vita, I mean really.



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RolStoppable said:
theprof00 said:

Why would Nintendo spend R&D on a redesign to include more parts and circuitry when they're already losing money on each 3ds, and when they're making very good margin on the peripheral?

AS for the worldwide business, explain to me how the 3ds business hinges on having another analog built in. I can't see that being a main selling point to Nintendo's main audience.

As for the manufacturer, I have a strong feeling that the circle pad pro is part of the deal with Capcom. I mean, it was announced as a MH bundle accessory. Don't tell me you don't think there's any tomfoolery going on there.

1) Because the current 3DS isn't perfect in several ways and people have learned to anticipate redesigns for handhelds. A redesign could fix the problems and thus motivate the people who are holding out to finally buy a 3DS. The more 3DS hardware that is sold, the more 3DS software will be sold. The real money in the video game business is in the software, hence why any concerns over small losses on hardware are secondary to the issue of not selling anything at all.

2) A redesign would be more than just a second Circle Pad and Nintendo could go as far as offering two versions of their redesign, the difference being the positions of the left Circle Pad and d-pad. Putting the d-pad into the more comfortable position would be greatly welcome by people who play mostly or exclusively 2D games on handhelds and such a design would go hand in hand with New Super Mario Bros. 2.

3) While Capcom was involved in the design of the CCP (because Monster Hunter is the biggest third party IP in Japan), the peripheral was ready to support more than just Capcom games upon its announcement last September. Capcom wasn't the only third party who asked for this peripheral, so your assessment is wrong. I doubt that Capcom gets any kind of royalties for each CCP sold, because they were already bribed with Nintendo money beforehand. And obviously, a redesigned 3DS is not going to hurt Monster Hunter sales. If anything, it's going to help them, because the CCP makes the 3DS really bulky and less convenient to use.

I agree that your points are logical, but what is going to be Nintendo's decision do you think?

Nintendo has a forecast for the 3ds right? It's about double last year, right? The question is, will it be able to hit the mark without the redesign or not. Sales are increasing, so why redesign? Shouldn't that be saved for a rainy day?

Oh and no, CCP was leaked in a scan of Famitsu before its own announcement.



Nintendo won't release a 3DS redesign anytime soon.

  • New 3DS colors are being released
  • Sales are great, there's no need for a redesign
  • They can't include a second analog stick.  There is no space for it.  Placing it under the ABXY buttons would not be ergonomic

A redesign would include better screens, no screen scratch issue, lighter console, better battery life, better cameras.  Certainly not a 2nd stick.  Devs would make games that REQUIRE a second stick.  That would force 17M 3DS users to buy a CPP.  I'm sure they will pack the CPP with the new 3DS redesign.



Gilmour said:

Can't wait to see Jack Tretton at E3 with his famous opening quote: "It has been a great year for PlayStation" or its variant "It has been a great year for the PlayStation family".

Anyways, I hope for Sony gamers that there will be tons of Vita games at E3.  Or else, it won't be such a great year for PS.


Family and "hitting its stride" is so last year jack Tretton...

Now the hip thing is Playstation Ecosystem



01./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 144,585 / 297,468 (-5%)
03./03. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) - 42,347 / 345,260 (-30%)
04./09. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D (Nintendo) - 28,528 / 1,563,527 (+82%)
05./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 22,881 / 1,695,305 (+96%)
06./15. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) - 18,788 / 261,883 (+63%)
07./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 G (Capcom) - 16,496 / 1,433,370 (+21%)
08./21. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 13,810 / 157,337
10./20. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) (Nintendo) - 10,058 / 935,555 (+61%)
12./16. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) - 9,532 / 308,484 (+3%)
13./22. [NDS] Pokemon + Nobunaga no Yabou (Pokemon Co.) - 9,069 / 318,067
14./10. [3DS] Shin Sangoku Musou VS (Koei-Tecmo) - 8,614 / 24,192 (-45%)
15./23. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 8,503 / 2,345,476
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 6,783 / 3,561,199
19./27. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous) - 6,408 / 179,148
20./32. [WII] Go Vacation (Namco Bandai) - 6,002 / 271,087

it seems like nintendo did a lot of money this week.



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menx64 said:
01./02. [WII] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) - 144,585 / 297,468 (-5%)
03./03. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) - 42,347 / 345,260 (-30%)
04./09. [3DS] Super Mario Land 3D (Nintendo) - 28,528 / 1,563,527 (+82%)
05./14. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) - 22,881 / 1,695,305 (+96%)
06./15. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) - 18,788 / 261,883 (+63%)
07./11. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 G (Capcom) - 16,496 / 1,433,370 (+21%)
08./21. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) - 13,810 / 157,337
10./20. [WII] Wii Sports Resort (w/ Wii Remote+) (Nintendo) - 10,058 / 935,555 (+61%)
12./16. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D: Dream Drop Distance (Square Enix) - 9,532 / 308,484 (+3%)
13./22. [NDS] Pokemon + Nobunaga no Yabou (Pokemon Co.) - 9,069 / 318,067
14./10. [3DS] Shin Sangoku Musou VS (Koei-Tecmo) - 8,614 / 24,192 (-45%)
15./23. [WII] Wii Party (Nintendo) - 8,503 / 2,345,476
17./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) - 6,783 / 3,561,199
19./27. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous) - 6,408 / 179,148
20./32. [WII] Go Vacation (Namco Bandai) - 6,002 / 271,087

it seems like nintendo did a lot of money this week.