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benao87 said:

A 80k difference in 1m is 8%, in 500k is 20%. ~500k is not 480k~580K. Actually ~530K would've been a better option (if you meant 480-580), then your difference would've been 50K, wich is only 9.3%.

Ok.

To help everyone here when I said ~100k it's meam over 100k until near 200k... ow I can write 1xxk.

The point is I was right about the numbers .

The PS3 adjustment looks werid yet.



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Poor old Vita - facing stiff competition from it's own sibling never mind the competition. Probably a symptom of Sony's woes but they seem to really struggle with letting selling models go and fully promoting new ones. The PS2 to PS3 transition didn't feel smooth and neither does the Vita to PSP.

Nintendo by comparison seem to take a much more proactive stance in terms of shifting focus to their new model.

Or at least that's how it comes across to me.



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kowenicki said:

Anyway... what are you expecting Sony PS3 shipments to be now?

Between 2.4 and 2.7 million... to have 1m+ on shelves.



shanbcn said:
Mummelmann said:
Wii increase globally? Its almost half of the PS3 now! I'm sorry, I couldn't resist...

Why are people saying that the 3DS is doing poorly anwyay, it seems to be doing fine.


Compared to DS its doing poorly in west.

True. Come fall and holidays though the 3DS in the west should be all fixed. Add in NSMB2 and they're in for the money this holiday season no doubt. All should be western-rectified by 2013 imho.



Reasonable said:
Poor old Vita - facing stiff competition from it's own sibling never mind the competition. Probably a symptom of Sony's woes but they seem to really struggle with letting selling models go and fully promoting new ones. The PS2 to PS3 transition didn't feel smooth and neither does the Vita to PSP.

Nintendo by comparison seem to take a much more proactive stance in terms of shifting focus to their new model.

Or at least that's how it comes across to me.


I sometimes think its part of Sony's strategy to have this kind of rough transition, the Vita isn't making that much of a profit and the PS3 certainly wasn't when it first came out, so by having strong sales from the previous gen they can offset the losses incured from the next gen (I hoped that made sense :P), then further down the line Sony hopes that people buy the next gen system when support for their old  machine totally drops.

Nintendo also designs their system to be profitable day 1 so they simply want as many sales as possible, dropping support of the previous system helps encourage their owners to purchase their next system to still play games.



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TeddostheFireKing said:
Reasonable said:
Poor old Vita - facing stiff competition from it's own sibling never mind the competition. Probably a symptom of Sony's woes but they seem to really struggle with letting selling models go and fully promoting new ones. The PS2 to PS3 transition didn't feel smooth and neither does the Vita to PSP.

Nintendo by comparison seem to take a much more proactive stance in terms of shifting focus to their new model.

Or at least that's how it comes across to me.


I sometimes think its part of Sony's strategy to have this kind of rough transition, the Vita isn't making that much of a profit and the PS3 certainly wasn't when it first came out, so by having strong sales from the previous gen they can offset the losses incured from the next gen (I hoped that made sense :P), then further down the line Sony hopes that people buy the next gen system when support for their old  machine totally drops.

Nintendo also designs their system to be profitable day 1 so they simply want as many sales as possible, dropping support of the previous system helps encourage their owners to purchase their next system to still play games.

I think that's a part of it.  I think they're still somewhat locked into an older market pace and view, where the new model can grow slowly while the current model slowly winds down.  I just feel in the current market this may not be the best policy - things move a bit too fast currently, particularly with mobile devices.

I guess it's also tough to consider more forcibly winding down the PSP when it no doubt shows a profit for each unit plus some SW profit as well.  Anything that shows a positive return must be popular at Sony HQ right now.



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pezus said:
PSP is doing amazing numbers! Will it outlast Wii?

Doubtful, but handhelds always tend to last longer. Both will sell another 10-20mil from here, depending on SW support and pricing for their next gen equivalents.

Same with DS.



 

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kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:

kowenicki said:

Anyway... what are you expecting Sony PS3 shipments to be now?

Between 2.4 and 2.7 million... to have 1m+ on shelves.


I agree.  I said 2.4 to 2.7 earlier. 

Eh, why would Sony need to ship between 2.4-2.7m to have over 1 million sat on shelves when for the past two years at the end of the first quarter Sony have had considerably less than 1 million sat on shelves. Sony are going to ship roughly 2 million like they said they would and that will match Vgchartz numbers perfectly fine.



pezus said:
Conegamer said:
pezus said:
PSP is doing amazing numbers! Will it outlast Wii?

Doubtful, but handhelds always tend to last longer. Both will sell another 10-20mil from here, depending on SW support and pricing for their next gen equivalents.

Same with DS.

Nah, DS will stop selling before both Wii and PSP. It already shows in the weekly charts

You forget about Pokemon B&W2. That'll boost it by a lot...

And I see 10mil for DS, less than the other two, but still selling.



 

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pezus said:
Conegamer said:
pezus said:
Conegamer said:
pezus said:
PSP is doing amazing numbers! Will it outlast Wii?

Doubtful, but handhelds always tend to last longer. Both will sell another 10-20mil from here, depending on SW support and pricing for their next gen equivalents.

Same with DS.

Nah, DS will stop selling before both Wii and PSP. It already shows in the weekly charts

You forget about Pokemon B&W2. That'll boost it by a lot...

And I see 10mil for DS, less than the other two, but still selling.


Pokemon will boost it? Maybe about a 50k boost for one week but not more. Software doesn't boost the hardware so late in the cycle, especially when it sells sub 50k each week.

NEVER underestimate the power of the Monado Pokemon. These things...they're great. They sell consoles. 

And DS will just continue selling as it is for many months. It'll stumble across the 160mil line, and end up virtually the same as the PS2.



 

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