all i'm saying is this video starts by cherry picking their favorite rumor and taking it as fact.  the techincal analysis is fine and all but it's still based on rumor just like the other rumors that suggest the opposite.  this video proves nothing.  the only thing this really proves is nintendo fans (like nintendo haters) are just as likely to accpect without proof the rumors they want to hear.

Well I'll exclude GPU because, in fairness, much of that is hearsay. That said I still think you're being too dismissive. For example, we know that the Wii U's CPU will be based on IBM's Power7 chipset and this video goes on to make some logical assertions about the  Wii U CPU's likely capability based on that information. While it is possible that IBM completely stripped down their chipset to make it less powerful than the PowerPC unit used in the Xbox 360, it's unlikely in the extreme. At the end of the day Nintendo chose the Power7 chipset for the Wii U and if you want to speculate on the Wii U's probable power you have to make logical inferences from that. It seems unlikely that they would choose a chipset like this, only to request it be stripped down to the point where it underperforms a seven year old PowerPC model. Therefore most people would then conclude that they opted for this model because they wanted a more capable processor than those used in the PS360. Again, it's about logical assertions based on the available information.

Nothing this past week has made me change my mind that the WiiU will be 1.5x to 2.5x more powerful than the current HD consoles. This does make me feel better about that assessment.

I also wonder if it was/is Sony first/second party developers who are providing the negative assessments of the WiiU -- that or incompetent ones.

Mike from Morgantown

I'd imagine streaming to both a tablet and TV would be very taxing to the Wii U processor and graphics card. In the end any increase in power the Wii U has over a 360 could essentially be negated.

No, they're really not plausible.  It's the CPU that the rumors specifically cite as having lesser performance than current gen.  And WiiU's CPU has indeed been confirmed by IBM themselves.

(Just continue the discussion of the last few replies) In addition IF the GPU is either of the chip from the IGN rumors. (Both are in the HD4000 series) Both support ATi's multiple monitor standard which means they will be made to support more than one display. (Also using said GPU would make sense since they are using multiple displays) Thus depending on what the controller screen is doing shouldn't affect the load of the GPU that much. Plus at the end of the segment about the the video cards he did say if they even went with the 5 year old 8800 nVidia card (Not sure which exact model he said but I think it was that one) which would be dirt cheep that card would still be more powerful then the ones the current HD twins sport.

I was going to wite this but I couldn't be bothered :p

CPU isn't a biggie for graphics, GPU is where its all at.

I don't understand your logic, I am talking about GPU not CPU.

It's simple.  You claim that the rumors as of late are still plausible.  The fact that that you cite the GPU as what's in question is where you're mistaken:

"Sources said graphical quality "won't be a problem" on Nintendo's new console, but a drop in CPU horsepower compared to 360 and PS3 could see Wii U lag behind in areas such as complicated physics and AI."

"A second source working on a big name franchise said GPU and RAM power "won't be a problem" on the new console but, again, claimed Wii U struggles to match PS3 and 360 in processing power."

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/342718/wii-u-games-look-just-as-good-as-ps3-but-its-still-not-as-capable/

Therefore, it's not the GPU that the rumors are criticizing so much, it's the CPU, which again, has already been confirmed by IMB as a POWER7, which, even at its lowest clock speed, is more than capable of outperforming the current gen machines overall.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/07/ibm-puts-watsons-brains-in-nintendo-wii-u/

The only GPU related criticism is the supposed lack of shaders.  And while it is true that neither Nintendo nor ATi has officially confirmed the GPU that Wii U will be using, a simple Google search will reveal that every site reporting on Wii U news reports it as an R700 series processor (in fact several sites, such as Engadget, don't say "rumored" at all):

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/14/wii-u-has-last-gen-radeon-inside-still-more-powerful-than-ps3-a/

So the lack of shaders from "anonymous" sources coming from one site, are severely lacking in credibility.

Okay? the video is talking about GPU.... GPU!

and I said the GPU is still rumored , they never talked about the GPU AT ALL, only official thing is IBM and the CPU.

so the rumores can't be debunked yet, because we know NOTHING about the GPU .. not the CPU, read it with me

Gee . Pee .You (Graphics Processing Unit, ALA TEH GRAPHIX POWAH!)

not

Cee . Pee .You (Central Processing Unit, ALA TEH CORE, TEH BRAINS!)

WiiU graphics are still not officially "crap" or "awesome" because nothing was official about GPU is shown, so the rumors can still be plausible, the video on OP is debunking these rumors, which we can't do because!..... you guessed it, we know nothing about the GPU.