Obesity has nothing to do with initiative, and everything to do with corporations who have the magical ability to somehow disrupt people's metabolic function so that they're unable to burn the calories that they consume? Got it.

Not everyone who is obese lacks initiative, that's true, but it was agreed that we're generalizing here, so your anecdote about walking uphill both ways to your 72 jobs means nothing. People who have similar diets (in terms of composition, not amount) can vary wildly in body composition, but in the absence of a glandual or metabolic disorder, it can generally be explained by caloric intake and exercise regimen. Period. All this talk about rich people dining on foie gras and baby asparagus while poor people are forced to subsist on Doritos sandwiches is beyond parody.

no i am saying i see more fat white people than any other race.

Guess I'll use that for my essay. Arigatou Genome-Nisan~

Not looking this up, but all I will say is in college I saw this multiple times in social science, and biology classes. The rates of obesity go something like this and is not really debatible. Black>>Hispanic>>White> Asian. For one, this also shows the basic premis is wrong as Asains are the minority and are the slimmest race. I do not care to go into the well known reasons of why certion minorities have higher rates of obeisity because it is obvious and mostly concerns social conditions. Even though the high rates of diabetes in Hispanics is believed to be mostly of genetic factors.

I think your problem is that you "generalize" a little too much about people.

My point to you, which you can choose to listen to or deride as liberal rhetoric, is that when working 3 jobs I don't have time to

a) work on side projects
b) improve myself
c) excercise

and I don't have the funds to

a) buy proper food
b) get proper medical support
c) Buy things that keep me healthy (proper clothes, supplies, food, etc)

Your derisive opening only highlights your inability to fundamentally understand the concepts that I'm talking about. McDonaldization si the process of making everything as cheaply as possible which disrupts the natural supply order. When this happens, it makes it very difficult for cheap healthy food to get to the market because the food-supplier market is dependant upon eating up as much as possible, and quite literally throwing away massive quantities of unused food. It has nothing to do with your sarcastic comment.

Yes, on a superficial level body weight is all about caloric intake vs caloric expenditure. I'm glad we can boil this incredibly pervasive and complex problem down to a simple mathematical equation, that somehow supports your argument that the poor have no initiative.

You have a tendency to be quite concerned about minorities. Like that time you felt the tendency to mention obesity in the Latina thread. Your belief is wrong, really more than half?

Obesity depends on income levels regardless. Non-Hispanic whites in rural areas with high poverty tend to be fatter than those who earn more. Latinos who earn less also tend to be fatter. Not to mention the cheap fat fast food options like McD's, Burger King...etc

Hispanics (28.7%), and non-Hispanic whites (23.7%)

For disease it has to do that minorities tend to lack the proper health coverage and/or lack insurance. 

I was saying I was generalizing. Some truth to it, yes?

Aren't 60% of adult Americans overweight? When the majority are overweight, you can't really attribute it to minorities.

Anyway, I think badgenome has pretty much covered it.

I will add one point (more of a question than a point), is it possible that some races are more genetically predisposed to retaining fat? After all, black people (the largest minority in America) have more recently left an area where food is scarce. White Europeans have had a steady supply of food for hundreds of years, now. Even before the industrial revolution, there was an agricultural economy.

I mean, the reason behind the difference in skin colour is down to the sun (I think), so maybe this might have an effect, as well.

I could be chatting complete shit. I'm just putting a couple of observations together. I'm now going to sit and wait to be proven wrong.

It's also part due to genetic. Some people simply gain weight easier than others.

For me, it's difficult to gain weight and I eat bacon and cheese quite often.

I don't drink pop at all though. So, no sugary drinks.

There's nothing superficial about it. Body weight is a function of just that, and no amount of navel gazing and none of your paranoiac fantasies about sinister corporations will ever change metabolic science. If people have access to more and cheaper food than they did in the Olden Tymes when they had a harder time meeting their daily recommended calories but at least we weren't plagued by the likes of McDonald's, they will tend to be fatter. We do, and we are.

That there isn't cheap healthy food available is just incredibly false. Even dollar stores sell all kinds of healthy food. You can get salmon primavera. FOR A DOLLAR. That people don't avail themselves of it and prefer to guzzle high fructose corn syrup is another matter, but as we (or at least I) already know, fat people typically lack the initiative to better themselves.