By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Politics Discussion - The Racist history of the Republican Party

The Republicans are the champions of freedom?

The freedom to marry who you want?

The freedom to use a safe, natural substance, either medicinally or recreationally?

The freedom for a woman to make her own reproductive decisions?

 

Or are you trying to feed me some bullshit?



Switch: SW-5066-1525-5130

XBL: GratuitousFREEK

Around the Network

Yeah and the worst of those racist fuck Republicans was that bastard Abe Lincoln.



Marks said:
Yeah and the worst of those racist fuck Republicans was that bastard Abe Lincoln.


I agree, have you seen a vampire lately.....



PSWii60 owner! woot


Get your Portable ID!

killerzX said:
Rath said:

Watched it now. It's a stretch for him to claim that the Democrats are racists, ever since JFK they've done far more for civil rights than the Republicans.

i dont think he was claiming that, i think he was just, debunking the myth that republicans were/are. but it is usually always democrats who like to divide people into different groups and view people as different groups, not just as people, everyone has to be subdivided.



Also the Nazi's may have had socialism in their name but they certainly weren't socialist. Nor were the Italian facists. Not the the Republican party is facist either.


really then what were they, they believed in wealth redistribution, they believed in a strong authoritarian government that controller the people. relly i see little difference between the communists of russia, and the communists of Germany.


As for the greed thing - the reason Republicans are accused of being greedy is because their plans for tax tend to favour the rich more than the Democrats plans.

thats another myth too, first of which i would agrue that the social welfare programs have done more harm to the poor than any other policy. further more according to the IRS  berfore the busch tax cuts, the tops 1% of income earners paid 37% of income tax, afterwards around 2008 they paid 39%. furthermore before bush tax cuts top 5% paid 56%, after they paid 60%

 

@killerZX the important thing to watch in terms of racism is basically which way the South votes. This is a pre-civil rights presidential election (1956)

This is the first post Civil Rights (1964) election (which was just after the assassination of JFK).

 

Basically the Democrats completely reinvented themselves over the issue and swapped strongholds with the Republicans who previously couldn't get votes in the South and since then can't lose them.

i think this was referenced kind of in the video, by him talking about the whole social welfare system, and still after JFK you had people robert byrd, and LBJ (the president of the sentate who lead filibusters against the civil right bill, thats right LBJ was one of the biggest opponents of civil rights) also the civil right bill would have never passed if it werent for all the republicans who voted for it, in much higher numbers and % to than the democrts

 

Lol, I'm not sure what i found so shockingly inaccurrate, the video or your your response. LBJ was definitely in support of the Civil Right Act, he did more for the Civil Right movement than any other President. This can be seen with the Civil Right Act and the Voting Rights Act. There is all lies in your statement and i want to see proof of so called percentages. Actually what ended up happening was that as a result of this new found shift of racial justice within the Democratic Party, is what led to the shift of many southern racists like Strom Thurmond to shift from the Democratic party to the Republican Party.  My problem with the video is that despite there is some truth in what he says he neglects to acknowledge the shifts within the parties. The democratic and Republican Parties of today are nothing like they were before. The Republican party of Lincoln time were sympanthizers to the blacks but their main goal was not to end slavery, they were abolitionist whose main goal was to restrict slavery within its current states or to even out every new slave state with a free state. These republicans were more concerned by not getting out numbered by  thier opponents then trying to stop slavery. While i admit the Democrat party did originate from some racist backgrounds it is so not the party it once was. As poster in the picture the Democratic party took a turn for the better into what it is now with the transition brought on by JFK and LBJ in th 1960. So the Democratic party does have a racist history, but if you look at the present the people who are in support of neoconfederatism are more likely to be apart the Republican party based on the fact that those sanctions of people have shifted to that party in the past fifty years.

BTW- in my opinion Hitler and his socialist Nazi party were actually pretty brilliant (minus the whole anti-semantic actions) in bringing a country out a humongous debt and giving people work and establishing a working class again. People seems to always associate the negate the socialist idea because of this fiasco but it isn't as bad everyone makes it seems.



saxophonehero said:
killerzX said:

 

Lol, I'm not sure what i found so shockingly inaccurrate, the video or your your response. LBJ was definitely in support of the Civil Right Act, he did more for the Civil Right movement than any other President.

actually before he was president, he was the majority leader of the senate, where he actually blocked civil rights legislation. he was actually one of the biggest OPPONENTS of civil rights before he was president, when he figured out he could exploit the civil rights for political purposes. he figured out he could permently get the black votin block by passing this legislation, keep them dependent on the democrats, and they will continuelly rely on the dems and vote for them. i think LBJ was once quoted as saying after the passage of civil rights, "this will keep the n*ggers voting democrat for the next hundred years"

This can be seen with the Civil Right Act and the Voting Rights Act. There is all lies in your statement and i want to see proof of so called percentages. Actually what ended up happening was that as a result of this new found shift of racial justice within the Democratic Party, is what led to the shift of many southern racists like Strom Thurmond to shift from the Democratic party to the Republican Party.  My problem with the video is that despite there is some truth in what he says he neglects to acknowledge the shifts within the parties. The democratic and Republican Parties of today are nothing like they were before. The Republican party of Lincoln time were sympanthizers to the blacks but their main goal was not to end slavery, they were abolitionist whose main goal was to restrict slavery within its current states or to even out every new slave state with a free state. These republicans were more concerned by not getting out numbered by  thier opponents then trying to stop slavery. While i admit the Democrat party did originate from some racist backgrounds it is so not the party it once was. As poster in the picture the Democratic party took a turn for the better into what it is now with the transition brought on by JFK and LBJ in th 1960. So the Democratic party does have a racist history, but if you look at the present the people who are in support of neoconfederatism are more likely to be apart the Republican party based on the fact that those sanctions of people have shifted to that party in the past fifty years.

BTW- in my opinion Hitler and his socialist Nazi party were actually pretty brilliant (minus the whole anti-semantic actions) in bringing a country out a humongous debt and giving people work and establishing a working class again. People seems to always associate the negate the socialist idea because of this fiasco but it isn't as bad everyone makes it seems.





Around the Network
saxophonehero said:
killerzX said:
Rath said:

Watched it now. It's a stretch for him to claim that the Democrats are racists, ever since JFK they've done far more for civil rights than the Republicans.

i dont think he was claiming that, i think he was just, debunking the myth that republicans were/are. but it is usually always democrats who like to divide people into different groups and view people as different groups, not just as people, everyone has to be subdivided.



Also the Nazi's may have had socialism in their name but they certainly weren't socialist. Nor were the Italian facists. Not the the Republican party is facist either.


really then what were they, they believed in wealth redistribution, they believed in a strong authoritarian government that controller the people. relly i see little difference between the communists of russia, and the communists of Germany.


As for the greed thing - the reason Republicans are accused of being greedy is because their plans for tax tend to favour the rich more than the Democrats plans.

thats another myth too, first of which i would agrue that the social welfare programs have done more harm to the poor than any other policy. further more according to the IRS  berfore the busch tax cuts, the tops 1% of income earners paid 37% of income tax, afterwards around 2008 they paid 39%. furthermore before bush tax cuts top 5% paid 56%, after they paid 60%

 

@killerZX the important thing to watch in terms of racism is basically which way the South votes. This is a pre-civil rights presidential election (1956)

This is the first post Civil Rights (1964) election (which was just after the assassination of JFK).

 

Basically the Democrats completely reinvented themselves over the issue and swapped strongholds with the Republicans who previously couldn't get votes in the South and since then can't lose them.

i think this was referenced kind of in the video, by him talking about the whole social welfare system, and still after JFK you had people robert byrd, and LBJ (the president of the sentate who lead filibusters against the civil right bill, thats right LBJ was one of the biggest opponents of civil rights) also the civil right bill would have never passed if it werent for all the republicans who voted for it, in much higher numbers and % to than the democrts

 

Lol, I'm not sure what i found so shockingly inaccurrate, the video or your your response. LBJ was definitely in support of the Civil Right Act, he did more for the Civil Right movement than any other President. This can be seen with the Civil Right Act and the Voting Rights Act. There is all lies in your statement and i want to see proof of so called percentages.

It's actually a lot more complicated then you'd think.

Up until the Civil Rights bill he was EXTREMLY anti-civil rights, then a switch flipped.

He was either a racist who later switched positions to get black votes, or someone who believed in civil rights who pretended to be a racist to appease racist democrats to get into positions of regional and national power.

I believe in the latter more then the former.  Though he did put on a good enough show to where you could well believe the former.  Even so much as he calldd his black servents nigger to their face in public.  Though, this mostly seemed to happen when in the presense of other racists.

I mean, the black vote I don't believe historically was very important at that time.

Though he did kind of hedge his bets by saying the first bill needed to be passed because "They owed it to kennedy, since he died but really wanted the bill passed."



Marks said:
Yeah and the worst of those racist fuck Republicans was that bastard Abe Lincoln.

Hehe.  Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. 

Except you did so with bad words, potty mouth.



Proud member of the SONIC SUPPORT SQUAD

Tag "Sorry man. Someone pissed in my Wheaties."

"There are like ten games a year that sell over a million units."  High Voltage CEO -  Eric Nofsinger

If you go back enough, both parties were filled with Racists. The Democratic Party (the party of slavery) started the Civil War by causing enough political ruckus to get Southern States to secede from the Union. Strom Thurmond, a Democrat at the time, campaigned in South Carolina to keep segregation in check, and to keep black people away from whites. When the Democratic Party shifted towards civil rights, Strom jumped to the Republicans since their presidential candidate (Goldwater '64) was decidedly against the Civil Rights Act.

You see both parties have been hampered with Racism throughout their history. Instead of hurling crap at each other like the thieves that supposedly represent us in Congress and Senate want us to do, we should refrain from these generalizations and fear mongering and open up semi-polite discourse before America goes the way of all failed human empires.



amp316 said:
Marks said:
Yeah and the worst of those racist fuck Republicans was that bastard Abe Lincoln.

Hehe.  Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. 

Except you did so with bad words, potty mouth.


Sorry Amp! 

What I meant to say was "Yeah and the worst of those racist meanie Republicans was that goofball Abe Lincoln."



NinjaguyDan said:

The Republicans are the champions of freedom?

The freedom to marry who you want?

The freedom to use a safe, natural substance, either medicinally or recreationally?

The freedom for a woman to make her own reproductive decisions?

 

Or are you trying to feed me some bullshit?


The republican party has a higher percentage of Libertarian leaning people in office. So I am going to say yes to the first one...

Neither party is really good at the second one... Obama was for Don't Ask Don't Tell... and if the Dems were such supporters of gay marriage they would have legalized it when they had control of both the house and senate... 

Again, neither party is great with this... Paul wants to legalize it... Obama has been the hardest president on legal pot sellers. 

I'll give you this one. Those Republicans would rather give the fetus the right to live 

Edit: And I found this funny. This is what happens when the liberals have complete control of a city http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/10-things-that-are-banned-in-san-francisco Freedom!