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saxophonehero on 13 March 2012
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killerzX said:
Rath said:

Watched it now. It's a stretch for him to claim that the Democrats are racists, ever since JFK they've done far more for civil rights than the Republicans.

i dont think he was claiming that, i think he was just, debunking the myth that republicans were/are. but it is usually always democrats who like to divide people into different groups and view people as different groups, not just as people, everyone has to be subdivided.



Also the Nazi's may have had socialism in their name but they certainly weren't socialist. Nor were the Italian facists. Not the the Republican party is facist either.


really then what were they, they believed in wealth redistribution, they believed in a strong authoritarian government that controller the people. relly i see little difference between the communists of russia, and the communists of Germany.


As for the greed thing - the reason Republicans are accused of being greedy is because their plans for tax tend to favour the rich more than the Democrats plans.

thats another myth too, first of which i would agrue that the social welfare programs have done more harm to the poor than any other policy. further more according to the IRS  berfore the busch tax cuts, the tops 1% of income earners paid 37% of income tax, afterwards around 2008 they paid 39%. furthermore before bush tax cuts top 5% paid 56%, after they paid 60%

 

@killerZX the important thing to watch in terms of racism is basically which way the South votes. This is a pre-civil rights presidential election (1956)

This is the first post Civil Rights (1964) election (which was just after the assassination of JFK).

 

Basically the Democrats completely reinvented themselves over the issue and swapped strongholds with the Republicans who previously couldn't get votes in the South and since then can't lose them.

i think this was referenced kind of in the video, by him talking about the whole social welfare system, and still after JFK you had people robert byrd, and LBJ (the president of the sentate who lead filibusters against the civil right bill, thats right LBJ was one of the biggest opponents of civil rights) also the civil right bill would have never passed if it werent for all the republicans who voted for it, in much higher numbers and % to than the democrts

 

Lol, I'm not sure what i found so shockingly inaccurrate, the video or your your response. LBJ was definitely in support of the Civil Right Act, he did more for the Civil Right movement than any other President. This can be seen with the Civil Right Act and the Voting Rights Act. There is all lies in your statement and i want to see proof of so called percentages. Actually what ended up happening was that as a result of this new found shift of racial justice within the Democratic Party, is what led to the shift of many southern racists like Strom Thurmond to shift from the Democratic party to the Republican Party.  My problem with the video is that despite there is some truth in what he says he neglects to acknowledge the shifts within the parties. The democratic and Republican Parties of today are nothing like they were before. The Republican party of Lincoln time were sympanthizers to the blacks but their main goal was not to end slavery, they were abolitionist whose main goal was to restrict slavery within its current states or to even out every new slave state with a free state. These republicans were more concerned by not getting out numbered by  thier opponents then trying to stop slavery. While i admit the Democrat party did originate from some racist backgrounds it is so not the party it once was. As poster in the picture the Democratic party took a turn for the better into what it is now with the transition brought on by JFK and LBJ in th 1960. So the Democratic party does have a racist history, but if you look at the present the people who are in support of neoconfederatism are more likely to be apart the Republican party based on the fact that those sanctions of people have shifted to that party in the past fifty years.

BTW- in my opinion Hitler and his socialist Nazi party were actually pretty brilliant (minus the whole anti-semantic actions) in bringing a country out a humongous debt and giving people work and establishing a working class again. People seems to always associate the negate the socialist idea because of this fiasco but it isn't as bad everyone makes it seems.