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Sony won't kill the profitable PSP and won't bleed money on PSV itself to boost the latter's sales (Alluding? Who, me?). If not absolutely necessary, a cut will come at earliest before next Xmas, but ideally more than one year from launch, Q1 or Q2 2013.



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radishhead said:
They said the same thing about 3DS - so I guess the developers that cancelled their 3DS projects to move to Vita are now moving back to 3DS?
There never was any developers moving, it's just developers trying to scare Sony

I thought Iwata said that was one of the reasons for the drastic price cut to the 3DS. In order to reassure developers of the viability of the 3DS hardware/software market, so they would keep developing their games for the system.

http://tinyurl.com/4ylzrkq

If the same thing is happening to the Vita...what will Sony do?




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theprof00 said:
If this has to do with the install base, it wouldnt make any sense to do this right before release in other markets.

Perhaps its japan only devs? Or perhaps there is some physical force causing this. Otherwise, the other problem is that3ds has more software and more competition. It has more exposure, but working on a brand new system is generally preferred from what i hear regarding app development.


Yeah, i believe this refers to japanese developers.

You have to understand that 3rd parties want to make money and doesnt fall onto them to support the hardware to increase sales. Nintendo did something about the 3DS, Sony has to do something about the Vita themselves.

But, this presents issues. First, the company is in a bad financial status and the system is already priced as low as it can be by means of external memory cards. Even if Sony managed to slice the price, it would be unfeasible for them to take the losses of a price cut as substancial as the 3DS got. Therefore, its hard to see the situation improving.

From a 3rd party point of view, whose purpose is to survive/make a profit. The 3DS is the logical choice. Furthermore, i think that due to the fact that the 3DS is reaching foreign markets aswell, its a much better venue to port old PSP titles that never sold much in the west due to the PSP's failure.

 

I'm pretty sure theres good money to be made just porting things like FF7CC, FFtype zero, Kingdom Hearts BBS, FFT, Y's, etc, aswell as Gamecube and Playstation 2 games.

The problem with the Vita is 2 fold. One its too soon for it to come out and second it doesnt give you a feature you cant get on any other portable console (3DS has the 3D). Its bad marketing from SONY. Even the rubbing on the VITA system makes little sense when you're blocking the view of your own screen with it.



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thekitchensink said:
I'm not going to give this article any real consideration because there is no name behind the source, but you have to admit it would be hilarious if the tables were turned in the eighth generation and developers started 'flocking to' Nintendo and dropping support for the competition.

Not that I want anyone to lose support, but it would be sooo ironic XD


I'm sorry but that's just not a very well thought out statement coming from a writer.

I mean;

Firstly, the DS was way more popular than PSP and was submerged in support. "...if the tables were turned...". Oh come on.

Secondly, your statement "eighth generation" along with the context of that whole paragraph implies that this has something to do with home consoles - which it hasn't.

Thirdly, (and this is as much aimed for the article as anything else) there were TONS of games listed as in development for the Vita. I'm not sure fo the exact numbers, but perhaps even more than for the 3DS.

Fourthly, "...dropping support for the competition", (a subsidiary to point 2) are you talking about portable consoles!? Because if so you might as well put 'Sony' there instead of 'competition'. There is no other dedicated handheld device. If you were to argue: IPAD, then I would say well the dev support is increasing for iOs platforms.

So no, it wouldn't be "sooo ironic" if devs dump the PSVita completely and focus only on 3DS (taking the protagonist stance here for a moment). Who ever (EVER) stated that the PSVita would beat the 3DS in any way shape or form? Well, maybe a few fanboys on the internet, but these people you are basing your irony on are a smaller percentage than the percentage of people that believe the earth is 5000 years old.


Oh, come on, mate.  Take a joke ;)



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Nem said:
theprof00 said:
If this has to do with the install base, it wouldnt make any sense to do this right before release in other markets.

Perhaps its japan only devs? Or perhaps there is some physical force causing this. Otherwise, the other problem is that3ds has more software and more competition. It has more exposure, but working on a brand new system is generally preferred from what i hear regarding app development.


Yeah, i believe this refers to japanese developers.

You have to understand that 3rd parties want to make money and doesnt fall onto them to support the hardware to increase sales. Nintendo did something about the 3DS, Sony has to do something about the Vita themselves.

But, this presents issues. First, the company is in a bad financial status and the system is already priced as low as it can be by means of external memory cards. Even if Sony managed to slice the price, it would be unfeasible for them to take the losses of a price cut as substancial as the 3DS got. Therefore, its hard to see the situation improving.

From a 3rd party point of view, whose purpose is to survive/make a profit. The 3DS is the logical choice. Furthermore, i think that due to the fact that the 3DS is reaching foreign markets aswell, its a much better venue to port old PSP titles that never sold much in the west due to the PSP's failure.

 

I'm pretty sure theres good money to be made just porting things like FF7CC, FFtype zero, Kingdom Hearts BBS, FFT, Y's, etc, aswell as Gamecube and Playstation 2 games.

The problem with the Vita is 2 fold. One its too soon for it to come out and second it doesnt give you a feature you cant get on any other porable console (3DS has the 3D). Its bad marketing from SONY. Even the rubbing on the VITA system makes little sense when you're blocking the view of your own screen with it.

Japanese 3rd parties are the only relevant third parties for dedicated handheld gaming. Full stop. Western third parties are eager to move on into the mobile space, whereas they are willing only to give token support to the dedicated handhelds (knockoffs of the big console games)

For the activity to originate in Japanese developers, this should be rather frightening for Sony, if true.



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Galaki said:
maverick40 said:

It ended quite well for the psp actually. It stole an incredible amount of market share from Nintendo, who previously had a monopoly on the handheld market.

The martket expanded a lot last handheld gen. Both the DS/PSP brought in new customers. Whether PSP stole the market is debable.

Now, if you count smartphones as handhelds (like the industry are doing), did the market share get stolen from Nintendo/Sony?


this was the exactpoint I was going to say. 

I own both. I mainly got the psp for home brew though and so  I could watch mp4 files on long flights. But now my android phone does a great job at what I needed from  psp at thee time.



 

 

Mr Khan said:

Japanese 3rd parties are the only relevant third parties for dedicated handheld gaming. Full stop. Western third parties are eager to move on into the mobile space, whereas they are willing only to give token support to the dedicated handhelds (knockoffs of the big console games)

For the activity to originate in Japanese developers, this should be rather frightening for Sony, if true.

I agree. Developing games for iOS and android would probably be too expensive to move to the vita app space.

Knockoffs of the big games like Ultimate Marvel Capcom, and Modern Warfare are probably going to be more of a hindrance than a boon to vita sales.



Nem said:

I'm pretty sure theres good money to be made just porting things like FF7CC, FFtype zero, Kingdom Hearts BBS, FFT, Y's, etc, aswell as Gamecube and Playstation 2 games.

The problem with the Vita is 2 fold. One its too soon for it to come out and second it doesnt give you a feature you cant get on any other portable console (3DS has the 3D). Its bad marketing from SONY. Even the rubbing on the VITA system makes little sense when you're blocking the view of your own screen with it.

I didn't mean Japan devs when I said Japan only devs. I meant Japanese devs who only publish in Japan. Those games that never make it here.

I'd say the Vita really doesn't need that kind of support.

Games that are really popular in Japan are independantly made, visual novels, apps, atlus (who I'm sure arre still on board), so personally I'm not worried.



theprof00 said:
Nem said:

I'm pretty sure theres good money to be made just porting things like FF7CC, FFtype zero, Kingdom Hearts BBS, FFT, Y's, etc, aswell as Gamecube and Playstation 2 games.

The problem with the Vita is 2 fold. One its too soon for it to come out and second it doesnt give you a feature you cant get on any other portable console (3DS has the 3D). Its bad marketing from SONY. Even the rubbing on the VITA system makes little sense when you're blocking the view of your own screen with it.

I didn't mean Japan devs when I said Japan only devs. I meant Japanese devs who only publish in Japan. Those games that never make it here.

I'd say the Vita really doesn't need that kind of support.

Games that are really popular in Japan are independantly made, visual novels, apps, atlus (who I'm sure arre still on board), so personally I'm not worried.


In the long run I think it would be far worse than you're thinking ...

If third party publishers give up on the PS-Vita in Japan it would have a fairly massive impact on their worldwide projected sales of countless series that are popular outside of Japan aswell. The PS-Vita would have to sell exceptionally well to compensate for this in order to hold onto big Japanese series that have worldwide appeal.