A203D said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said: Not a sales bomb... just a dying series that is less and less relevant. The "final" fantasy cant be too far away thankfully... |
You're wrong and you know it.
Using VGChartz numbers, Final Fantasy XIII has sold over 6.5 Million units. On the PS3, talking single platform releases here... FFXIII has only been beaten by the 360 SKU of Skyrim this generation when talking console RPGs.
Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 alone sold more than Mass Effect 2 PS360 combined, Fable 3 and Fable 2.
Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 and 360 combined has sold more than Fallout 3 PS360, Fallout New Vegas PS360 and Oblivion PS360.
I don't see how anyone can say Final Fantasy is a dying series because a sequel to a poorly-recieved game has sold 2 Million units after a Week of being on sale in Western markets. When the next full scale Final Fantasy launches and THEN sales see significant drops... Then say it's dying.
This also reminds me about us arguing about ME2 PS3 sales ages ago, where you said it wouldn't reach a Million. It's sitting at 920k without PSN sales. It's gonna be close.
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This is actully a bad thing.
think about it. Mass Effect 1 sold i dunno 2.5 mil copies. Mass Effect 2 sold 3 mil, not including digital sales. so based on that alone we know the sequel was so well recived it sold more than its predecessor.
FF13-2 has sold less in its first week than FF13. FF13-2 will sell a lot less than FF13. there is no chance it will come close to 6.5 mil. now this is a problem because it means of all those people who bought FF13, not all of them came back.
the point is games like Fable 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 (soon 3) are so well recieved they are significantly increasing their number of sales and thus fans. FF adversly is not inceasing in fans, if we look at first week FF13 to FF13-2 sales there has been a significant decrease in the interest of the title.
besides, FF13-2 will not sell more copies than Mass Effect 2. which is partly a disaster because out of 6.5 mil sales, FF13-2 will sell less that the original. from ME1's 2.5 mil sales, Biowares sequel will sell more than a sequel to a game that sold 6.5 mil copies. which developer has been more successful? the one that has decreased its fans, or the one that has increase it?
besides saying FF13-2 has ONLY been beaten by Skyrim is an understatement. the game has sold 10 mil fucking copies. thats going to be more than the sales of FF13 and FF13-2 combined. and it has only recently come out.
and FF13 is a significant drop FF10 and FF7 before it. the next FF will be comparable to FF12 and FF9 before that.
on that note i dont think FF13-2s are bad. but its semi-annoying having Sqaure Enix spin doctors always trying to defend FF13 with franchises that have only been recently established.
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Big difference is, this is Final Fantasy 13-2 (though it should be called 132), not 2 or 3 (like Mass Effect or Fable). Sure every ff is different, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a ff game. How many FF has SE released. How many remakes, ports, FF fighting games, kingdom hearts, etc. i recently bought all the available FF games on psn, almost finished FF IV and plan on playing some different games for a while (i.e. non ff ones). The only franchise which has done impressively well despite the huge number of games/spin-offs etc is Mario.
A fairer comparison would be FF 13-2 with Mass Effect 13-2 (after the release of a hundred Mass Effects games with different characters and in different genres).
Did anyone honestly expect FF13-2 to do better than FF13?