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Has FFXIII-2 Bombed Worldwide?

Yes, especially in Japan 73 26.45%
 
Yes, especially in the West 34 12.32%
 
No, the sales are great 169 61.23%
 
Total:276

I wouldnt call it a bomb, at least I didnt expect it to sell like hell since the reception of XIII in comparison to the most aclaimed games of the series, and the fact that its a sequel and not a "new" FF.

So I would call it a "success" if it makes money.



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13-2 started pretty well in the West. If it has any sort of longevity, it'll cross 4 million without trouble.



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I think, there is quite an array of choices between massive hit and bomb. And whenever someone chooses either they are overreacting positively or negatively.  I thought Japan performed worse than expected. And the west Performed about as would be expected. So, I'd say the sales are O.K. 

Being's FFX's decline to X-2 8 million --->5.5 million
And this was a game that had extremely positive reception. FFXIII didn't

I think it's interest is waning like zelda. But that doesn't mean it will stay that way with future entries. But it certainly could happen.




A203D said:

This is actully a bad thing.

think about it. Mass Effect 1 sold i dunno 2.5 mil copies. Mass Effect 2 sold 3 mil, not including digital sales. so based on that alone we know the sequel was so well recived it sold more than its predecessor.

FF13-2 has sold less in its first week than FF13. FF13-2 will sell a lot less than FF13. there is no chance it will come close to 6.5 mil. now this is a problem because it means of all those people who bought FF13, not all of them came back.

the point is games like Fable 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 (soon 3) are so well recieved they are significantly increasing their number  of sales and thus fans. FF adversly is not inceasing in fans, if we look at first week FF13 to FF13-2 sales there has been a significant decrease in the interest of the title.

besides, FF13-2 will not sell more copies than Mass Effect 2. which is partly a disaster because out of 6.5 mil sales, FF13-2 will sell less that the original. from ME1's 2.5 mil sales, Biowares sequel will sell more than a sequel to a game that sold 6.5 mil copies. which developer has been more successful? the one that has decreased its fans, or the one that has increase it?

besides saying FF13-2 has ONLY been beaten by Skyrim is an understatement. the game has sold 10 mil fucking copies. thats going to be more than the sales of FF13 and FF13-2 combined. and it has only recently come out.

and FF13 is a significant drop FF10 and FF7 before it. the next FF will be comparable to FF12 and FF9 before that.

on that note i dont think FF13-2s are bad. but its semi-annoying having Sqaure Enix spin doctors always trying to defend FF13 with franchises that have only been recently established.

Keep in mind as well that Mass Effect has a pretty considerable amount of it's sales on PC. Whereas FF is console only, Bioware are traditionally a PC developer and still have a huge fanbase there. It was announced in April 2011 that the series had sold over 7million. Even now 10 months later the console versions are at 6million. The PS3 version was only around 400k then as it wasn't long released (now 900k). Me2 (360) has sold another 300-350k odd since then. So I would guess that ME1+2 on PC had around 1.8million minimum sales in April 2011. 

Not hard to believe ME1+2 each ended up around a million on PC. 



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A203D said:
Carl2291 said:
kowenicki said:
Not a sales bomb... just a dying series that is less and less relevant.

The "final" fantasy cant be too far away thankfully...

You're wrong and you know it.

Using VGChartz numbers, Final Fantasy XIII has sold over 6.5 Million units. On the PS3, talking single platform releases here... FFXIII has only been beaten by the 360 SKU of Skyrim this generation when talking console RPGs.

Final Fantasy XIII on the PS3 alone sold more than Mass Effect 2 PS360 combined, Fable 3 and Fable 2.

Final Fantasy XIII on PS3 and 360 combined has sold more than Fallout 3 PS360, Fallout New Vegas PS360 and Oblivion PS360.

I don't see how anyone can say Final Fantasy is a dying series because a sequel to a poorly-recieved game has sold 2 Million units after a Week of being on sale in Western markets. When the next full scale Final Fantasy launches and THEN sales see significant drops... Then say it's dying.

This also reminds me about us arguing about ME2 PS3 sales ages ago, where you said it wouldn't reach a Million. It's sitting at 920k without PSN sales. It's gonna be close.

This is actully a bad thing.

think about it. Mass Effect 1 sold i dunno 2.5 mil copies. Mass Effect 2 sold 3 mil, not including digital sales. so based on that alone we know the sequel was so well recived it sold more than its predecessor.

FF13-2 has sold less in its first week than FF13. FF13-2 will sell a lot less than FF13. there is no chance it will come close to 6.5 mil. now this is a problem because it means of all those people who bought FF13, not all of them came back.

the point is games like Fable 3, Skyrim and Mass Effect 2 (soon 3) are so well recieved they are significantly increasing their number  of sales and thus fans. FF adversly is not inceasing in fans, if we look at first week FF13 to FF13-2 sales there has been a significant decrease in the interest of the title.

besides, FF13-2 will not sell more copies than Mass Effect 2. which is partly a disaster because out of 6.5 mil sales, FF13-2 will sell less that the original. from ME1's 2.5 mil sales, Biowares sequel will sell more than a sequel to a game that sold 6.5 mil copies. which developer has been more successful? the one that has decreased its fans, or the one that has increase it?

besides saying FF13-2 has ONLY been beaten by Skyrim is an understatement. the game has sold 10 mil fucking copies. thats going to be more than the sales of FF13 and FF13-2 combined. and it has only recently come out.

and FF13 is a significant drop FF10 and FF7 before it. the next FF will be comparable to FF12 and FF9 before that.

on that note i dont think FF13-2s are bad. but its semi-annoying having Sqaure Enix spin doctors always trying to defend FF13 with franchises that have only been recently established.


Big difference is, this is Final Fantasy 13-2 (though it should be called 132), not 2 or 3 (like Mass Effect or Fable). Sure every ff is different, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a ff game. How many FF has SE released. How many remakes, ports, FF fighting games, kingdom hearts, etc. i recently bought all the available FF games on psn, almost finished FF IV and plan on playing some different games for a while (i.e. non ff ones). The only franchise which has done impressively well despite the huge number of games/spin-offs etc is Mario.

A fairer comparison would be FF 13-2 with Mass Effect 13-2 (after the release of a hundred Mass Effects games with different characters and in different genres).

Did anyone honestly expect FF13-2 to do better than FF13?



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KylieDog said:
morenoingrato said:
Stop making the series some western-wannabe game.
Also, trying going back to your roots for once, you know, there's a reason old Final Fantasy was so popular, go back to active time battle.

FF was never popular until it jumped to PS1, before that they didn't even bother bringing all games out in west.  The multiple discs full of FMVs had a lot to do with the popularity spike, especially considering the misleading adverting.

I think he's referring to all the Final Fantasies up to 9, here - the ATB only really disappeared with 10.



sales look fine to me, will probably sell more in the summer and this xmas.



I'm not really sure what KylieDog is trying to say.
Maybe I wasn't clear with "old" Final Fantasy, since I included 7, 8 and 9.

Even if FF7 had a lot of cutscenes, the more text oriented story was still the thing that was driving the overall game, and FF7 never tried to be an action western-ish game.



RolStoppable said:
Khuutra said:

I think he's referring to all the Final Fantasies up to 9, here - the ATB only really disappeared with 10.

Who knows? He is a very, very, very biased Nintendo guy.

For completion's sake, the ATB was used from FF IV through IX and in X-2.

The ATB is also hidden in FF12, and it's basically there in FF13, just without the autonomy.

I think a lack of control in 13 is definitely a problem. They tried to make the pacing of the battles very frenetic, which means you dont' have as much time to select your attacks.



Khuutra said:
RolStoppable said:

Who knows? He is a very, very, very biased Nintendo guy.

For completion's sake, the ATB was used from FF IV through IX and in X-2.

The ATB is also hidden in FF12, and it's basically there in FF13, just without the autonomy.

I think a lack of control in 13 is definitely a problem. They tried to make the pacing of the battles very frenetic, which means you dont' have as much time to select your attacks.

Technically isn't it in FF11, and FF14 too. :D. Wasn't the first FF to use ATB FF4 anyways.

so the only ones without ATB in some state is FFX, FF1-3. Which seems more of the older ones don't have ATB.

I know this is getting a bit off his point, but still. :D