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sethnintendo said:
oniyide said:
fastyxx said:
The Viva piñata games are two of my absolute favorite titles on the 360. I thought they were genius and spent several dozen hours with each of them. And Banjo was pretty solid, though I'm not much of a "builder" so it wasn't really totally "me." (I don't sit and make maps or LBP levels or cars or anything like that. Not my forte.) But it was a quality game.

And I still think avatars are completely under-rated.


Really, i always thought they were just better versions of Miis

Actually, I think they are worse than Miis.  You can make/download anyone from Darth Vader - Obama - Link - Mario - Chuck Norris - crazy ass characters with Miis.  I highly doubt that those Microsoft Avatars can be made to look like so many people / characters.

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever



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oniyide said:

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever


So you can make the avatars look like celebs and characters from video games and cartoons?  Have you seen the Family Guy Peter Mii or the Homer? It looks exactly like the cartoon.  I haven't seen anything like that from the avatars granted I never play xbox.



sethnintendo said:
oniyide said:

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever


So you can make the avatars look like celebs and characters from video games and cartoons?  Have you seen the Family Guy Peter Mii or the Homer? It looks exactly like the cartoon.  I haven't seen anything like that from the avatars granted I never play xbox.


Well if you never played xbox, how the hell can you even comment???



oniyide said:
sethnintendo said:
oniyide said:

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever


So you can make the avatars look like celebs and characters from video games and cartoons?  Have you seen the Family Guy Peter Mii or the Homer? It looks exactly like the cartoon.  I haven't seen anything like that from the avatars granted I never play xbox.


Well if you never played xbox, how the hell can you even comment???


Because the only avatars I've seen look like goofy ass people and no one famous.  Hell, I downloaded a character that has a person skateboarding on their face.  I even have one where it looks like a lady giving the news on a tv in place of the person's face.  I believe there are just more unique things one can do with the Miis.



oniyide said:
sethnintendo said:
oniyide said:

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever

So you can make the avatars look like celebs and characters from video games and cartoons?  Have you seen the Family Guy Peter Mii or the Homer? It looks exactly like the cartoon.  I haven't seen anything like that from the avatars granted I never play xbox.

Well if you never played xbox, how the hell can you even comment???

I can; he's right, partially.

Avatars are more "realistic" but Miis lend themselves better to caricature because you can do more things with more exaggerated features, to make them look like cartoon versions of more people - famous people or fictional people or whatever. It's part of the Mii charm.



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Khuutra said:
oniyide said:
sethnintendo said:
oniyide said:

im pretty sure you're wrong, but whatever

So you can make the avatars look like celebs and characters from video games and cartoons?  Have you seen the Family Guy Peter Mii or the Homer? It looks exactly like the cartoon.  I haven't seen anything like that from the avatars granted I never play xbox.

Well if you never played xbox, how the hell can you even comment???

I can; he's right, partially.

Avatars are more "realistic" but Miis lend themselves better to caricature because you can do more things with more exaggerated features, to make them look like cartoon versions of more people - famous people or fictional people or whatever. It's part of the Mii charm.


Ill go with the guy who has actually used both, FYI i think they are both stupid



oniyide said:
Khuutra said:
oniyide said:

Well if you never played xbox, how the hell can you even comment???

I can; he's right, partially.

Avatars are more "realistic" but Miis lend themselves better to caricature because you can do more things with more exaggerated features, to make them look like cartoon versions of more people - famous people or fictional people or whatever. It's part of the Mii charm.


Ill go with the guy who has actually used both, FYI i think they are both stupid


It has to be said that they're a bit different. My Avatar on Xbox Live looks exactly like my wife. It's freaky! Her Mii also looks like her, but it's a cartoon version of her. Both are easily recognizable as her, just in different ways.



I could have just listed all the Miis I downloaded and I highly doubt any 360 owner could match them in terms of number of famous people, cartoon characters, etc.. that actually look pretty damn close. All good if you think they are stupid but it pleases some of my friends when they can come over and pick some of the characters that I have. I have one friend that loves using the Michael Jackson Mii and we of course make fun of Michael with his silly voice and things he says while we play Wii Sports Resort, etc... I am just showing you that they have value to people (although I am sure you know this already). I love that some of my Wii games populate my Mii characters with them. When I get screwed over by Beavis or Butthead riding in the car on Mario Kart Mii it makes it a little easier to cope with.



RolStoppable said:

I disagree. It only makes me even more upset when I get taken out by Gandalf or worse, Adolf Hitler.


Oh man you got Hitler?  I haven't seen him on the download list or I don't think I have.  He must be in the top 100 or whatever for your country or region.



Mr Puggsly said:
Jumpin said:

The issue was that Rare was really only great under Nintendo's guidance. They were the hottest developer in the world (even outshining Nintendo and Square), but they got cocky. Without Nintendo, Rare didn't have that guiding force to keep them on top of the industry.

I don't think they needed Nintendo's guidance per se, they needed Nintendo's audience. Rare is more in touch with what Nintendo fans want than Xbox fans. Everything Rare has put out post Nintendo hasn't been bad. In fact, I think all their Xbox games would have sold significantly better on Gamecube and Wii. Those are consoles where casual games and platformers are in demand.

Basically, Rare was great at selling games to the audience Nintendo built. But they couldn't bring a casual audience to the Xbox.

I don't see the connection between simply having Nintendo's audience, and all of the creative breakthroughs Rare had which led to massive industry trends and Rare being an industry leading force.

They made no technological or innovative breakthroughs after Microsoft bought them out; at least none that I can think of that became Industry leading forces like they had before. On SNES, Rare became the first company to use pre-rendered 24-bit graphics, and on a console that was supposed to have only a 16-bit output - this essentially started a revolution, Square would follow with Mario RPG, followed by a couple of other games, and eventually their Smash hit Final Fantasy 7, and Capcom brought Resident Evil 2. Not to mention they took the FPS genre, and brought it to a whole other level with GE007 on the N64 introducing things such as reaction zones, stealth combat, sniper rifles, and the most popular multiplayer mode in a game to date. They didn't really make any further breakthroughs after the N64 era; they certainly weren't leading the industry. This article really covers why that was the case when they discuss the positive morale, the cashflow, and the freedom which the company had in those days when they were under Nintendo's wing.



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