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disolitude on 22 January 2012
superchunk said:
disolitude said:
superchunk said:
until wp7 has insanely awesome integration with googles services I'm sticking with my Galaxy Nexus.

This comment was voice to texted on my gnex.


Lets see, maybe WP already covers Google services you need...

WP syncs with Gmail perfectly.

I have a Gmaps app on my Windows phone which gives me google maps and all of the services it has on  a platter to me.

I have a Picasa app which works wondefully in letting me see, share and upload pictures to Picasa

I have a google search app...its a text box just like the one you have on android

There is a Google Messenger client app as well, but I never used it.

What Google services is it missing?

Google Wallet, Google Docs, Navigation w/ voice turn by turn, Google Voice (for search and anything else, so not like wp), Google Music (100% cloud and fully free storage for 20,000 songs), ....

Plus on thing Google gives me that Apple and MS don't do the same or at all. I NEVER need to connect my phone to a computer. Google is 100% based on cloud/internet. I just log in and BAM all my stuff returns to my phone in minutes. I don't have to sync with any crappy computer software. AND its all FREE. No iCloud fees, no iTunes or whatever MS uses, nothing but my gmail login.

iOS is very simple and straight forward, but you pay more money up front and in apps to equal Android's experience.

WP7 is more streamlined as an OS, but it just doesn't offer the same overall experience.... for a cost or free.

Android has the most variety in hardware and software, it has the latest hardware, it offers the most software for free, ... its just the best overall mobile package.

OH and iOS and WP can't cusomize shit! I can change the entire way my phone looks without root and with root I can literally and/remove any functionality.


Only thing you can't get on Windows Phone out of those is Google Wallet or any NFC variant...yet. Everything else is available (Even Google music app) or has a variant like WP voice search which also lets you search, dictate messages and give phone functional commands like dial this, open that...And just like Android this was available a year before Siri.  And lets not forget MS Office baked in...I mean, why anyone would want to use Google docs when you have Office 360 and skydrive on the windows phone... Here is an interesting video showcasing my point:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/skydrive/cle/students/skydrive-for-students

As far as syncing, I am not sure what you're talking about. If its contacts, WP7 syncs that as well and not jsut for hotmail accounts. Bookamrks? Its coming with windows 8. Music? You can downlaod music as well as long as you upload it to skydrive. Documents? Yep, syncs with skydrive perfectly.

What else are you looking to sync between comuter and phone?

I use android on a tablet and had an android phone, and found that Android is great if you use google service. However, for a hotmail user, it didn't sync much. Windows phone will sync with gmail and will even let you register a gmail ID with the marketplace and xbox live with you assign it to a windows live ID...but google does this as well.

I am not saying WP is perfect as obviously it has aspects where it lags(customization, apps to name a few). But its a lot more competent and capable for most tasks than the 1.5% marketshare its getting. Basic things like keyboard typing and predictive text on windows phone for example is a lot better than iOS. This alone made me drop my iphone 4 that the company gave me and use the personal WP device as I type a lot on my phone...



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taddypole on 22 January 2012

I went from an Iphone 3g to an Htc surround with windows mobile 7 I and I must say I love the windows phone 7 Os its fast things are well integrated only issue I have only had is the lack of apps.



michael_stutzer on 22 January 2012

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/



dahuman on 22 January 2012
selnor said:
@ superchunk.

It doesn't always work.
In fact it only tends to work for mega known companies.

If you live in UK. Anyone. Try saying McDonald's on google. It will give you local map and number. Say British home stores. Google will not gibe you number and map. In fact instead just shows website find.

Try a small local comic book shop. Google does not bring it up in map form or any phone number. I have just done this o. HTC sensation with all the latest updates.

Do the same thing on Bing search and wallah you get the phone number and directions to the closest British home stores.
Again Bing brings up the final frontier comic book shop, directions and phone number.

This is 1 reason why Bing is so good on mobile phones.
The google equivelant does not fond everything. And alot of times only gives you a website and no local phone number.
If you live in UK and have access to both wp7 and android try it now.
Bing wins everytime.

Good thing I don't live in UK, google is boss(king) in the US, even Bing uses it.



dahuman on 22 January 2012
michael_stutzer said:

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/


I like how Firefox just rapes everything else in Java even on a S2 lol.



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dahuman on 22 January 2012
disolitude said:
superchunk said:
disolitude said:
superchunk said:
until wp7 has insanely awesome integration with googles services I'm sticking with my Galaxy Nexus.

This comment was voice to texted on my gnex.


Lets see, maybe WP already covers Google services you need...

WP syncs with Gmail perfectly.

I have a Gmaps app on my Windows phone which gives me google maps and all of the services it has on  a platter to me.

I have a Picasa app which works wondefully in letting me see, share and upload pictures to Picasa

I have a google search app...its a text box just like the one you have on android

There is a Google Messenger client app as well, but I never used it.

What Google services is it missing?

Google Wallet, Google Docs, Navigation w/ voice turn by turn, Google Voice (for search and anything else, so not like wp), Google Music (100% cloud and fully free storage for 20,000 songs), ....

Plus on thing Google gives me that Apple and MS don't do the same or at all. I NEVER need to connect my phone to a computer. Google is 100% based on cloud/internet. I just log in and BAM all my stuff returns to my phone in minutes. I don't have to sync with any crappy computer software. AND its all FREE. No iCloud fees, no iTunes or whatever MS uses, nothing but my gmail login.

iOS is very simple and straight forward, but you pay more money up front and in apps to equal Android's experience.

WP7 is more streamlined as an OS, but it just doesn't offer the same overall experience.... for a cost or free.

Android has the most variety in hardware and software, it has the latest hardware, it offers the most software for free, ... its just the best overall mobile package.

OH and iOS and WP can't cusomize shit! I can change the entire way my phone looks without root and with root I can literally and/remove any functionality.


Only thing you can't get on Windows Phone out of those is Google Wallet or any NFC variant...yet. Everything else is available (Even Google music app) or has a variant like WP voice search which also lets you search, dictate messages and give phone functional commands like dial this, open that...And just like Android this was available a year before Siri.  And lets not forget MS Office baked in...I mean, why anyone would want to use Google docs when you have Office 360 and skydrive on the windows phone... Here is an interesting video showcasing my point:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/skydrive/cle/students/skydrive-for-students

As far as syncing, I am not sure what you're talking about. If its contacts, WP7 syncs that as well and not jsut for hotmail accounts. Bookamrks? Its coming with windows 8. Music? You can downlaod music as well as long as you upload it to skydrive. Documents? Yep, syncs with skydrive perfectly.

What else are you looking to sync between comuter and phone?

I use android on a tablet and had an android phone, and found that Android is great if you use google service. However, for a hotmail user, it didn't sync much. Windows phone will sync with gmail and will even let you register a gmail ID with the marketplace and xbox live with you assign it to a windows live ID...but google does this as well.

I am not saying WP is perfect as obviously it has aspects where it lags(customization, apps to name a few). But its a lot more competent and capable for most tasks than the 1.5% marketshare its getting. Basic things like keyboard typing and predictive text on windows phone for example is a lot better than iOS. This alone made me drop my iphone 4 that the company gave me and use the personal WP device as I type a lot on my phone...


really? hotmail? I thought you were better than that.......... oh and there is an app for that too.....(yes it syncs you calendar and contacts) they need to add more features to it regarding folder managerment though, the Mail.com(aka AOL) one works much better. There is an app for pretty much anything man. Not to mention the rumor of XBL on iPhone and Android, MS is not stupid, they know where the money is at and they will go out and get it anyway possible because they have the capital to do so.

I still hate Metro UI, saw that thing running on Tegra 3 from CES and wanted to punch that Transformer Prime right on the glass even though I love that tablet, that's how bad it is for me. There is gotta be a plan for people to do custom UI on that, I won't believe MS would be that dense, there is gotta be a way, or I would never be able to give it a chance as a mobile solution because those blocks = fashion disaster.



michael_stutzer on 22 January 2012
dahuman said:
michael_stutzer said:

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/


I like how Firefox just rapes everything else in Java even on a S2 lol.


Yeah it is pretty good at it , but other than that I didn't like much. I tend to use stock browser and sometimes Opera for quick stuff.



dahuman on 22 January 2012
michael_stutzer said:
dahuman said:
michael_stutzer said:

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/


I like how Firefox just rapes everything else in Java even on a S2 lol.


Yeah it is pretty good at it , but other than that I didn't like much. I tend to use stock browser and sometimes Opera for quick stuff.

I personally use Dolphin HD, I like the gesture bookmarks a lot, makes it much faster.



disolitude on 22 January 2012
michael_stutzer said:

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/

I love FUD like this.

Its right up there with dual cores being better than single cores regardless of phone OS and camera megapixels being higher meaning better pictures, regardles of lens.

Putting the browser bar on the bottom of the browser like WP did with the 7.5 updade sped up the browsing experince morenthan any browser benchmark could ever show.



michael_stutzer on 22 January 2012
disolitude said:
michael_stutzer said:

Lets look at a proven benchmark Sunspider:

Nokia Lumnia 800                    6957
Samsung Galaxy Nexus          1983
Iphone 4S                                   2222

Windows Phone SMOKES competition!!! OMG!!! It is so higher it makes others look like a joke!

http://www.bestsmartphone.com/2011/09/26/javascript-benchmarks/

I love FUD like this.

Its right up there with dual cores being better than single cores regardless of phone OS and camera megapixels being higher meaning better pictures, regardles of lens.

Putting the browser bar on the bottom of the browser like WP did with the 7.5 updade sped up the browsing experince morenthan any browser benchmark could ever show.


I know right. Who are you tell that WP is lagging behind in terms of Javascript, Sunspider? We have disolitude first hand experience here.