Pretty clear if MS has shipped 66.5 million then sold through should be no less than 65 and really probably closer to 65.5 but understandable with holiday shipping.

Well whatever your view all those numbers are really bad across the board!! There were no winners.

What is strange though is again MS say the whole we are top selling console worldwide thing. So i'm guessing chances are they have done better and Sony have done worse in Europe. Either that or they are lying pretty much. But as a company you can't really do that as loads of rules they could get done for i.e trying to falsely influence stock prices with inacurate numbers.

yeah sure can't say alot about you economy since i don't live in the states. just thought about myself and if i would have liked to get a 360 from my parents 10 years ago with these rumours  i would have said "gimme the money don't need the console" haha

Some guy did that maths in GAF.

360 Nov YTD: 5.5 million

+ "over 1.7 million"

= 7.2 ~ 7.3 million for 2011.


"More than 2.7 million ahead of 2nd place"

2nd place: 4.5~4.6 million

Nov PS3 3.6 million => at most 1 million for Dec
Nov Wii: 3.5 million => at most 1.1 million for Dec
Nov 3DS: 3.2 million => at most 1.4 million for Dec

Remember these are heavily rounded numbers.

Edit - MS never talk about handheld... so I'm removing it. 

To tell the truth I wasnt expecting this but thats because of what i've seen on vgc. People need to stop making excuses, like you were telling the ps3 fans, and except that MS might of over shipped massively. next quarter shipment results will tell you if they did because there will be a massive dip. Until then we might not know

i think microsoft meant america. that guy just said worldwide to make it look better.

Er yeah, when Vgchartz hardware numbers for the holiday period are wrong, what chance do you think there software numbers are going to be right either? I'm talking about the individual top 10/top 40 charts that are released by chart track and other independent trackers every week. They show that apart from the UK the 360 barely has any software charting compared to the competition.

Europe's economy is way worse than the States, so really, its the two major territories for gaming.  People can talk about the Yen being a problem, but for consumers it's great.  It means their money buys more stuff for less.  But from what I heard, people were more apt to buy one big thing and a few little things this year, as in, maybe a 360 for one kid, and an ipod for another, etc... instead of everyone getting a game console or a TV etc.  Cost of living around the world continues to rise, yet wages fall.

They are the top selling console in US? Did they actually say worldwide?

Where is Nintendo???????????????????????