remember this is the US, you have to go quite far to be accused of excessive self defense. Remember the case of the guy shooting and killing 3 guys who he say robbing his neighbours house and was seen as a hero.


Almost for certain the kid would be charged for murder or manslaughter in Canada. I think in Canada the self defense laws are in simple words "sissy". For example if someone robs your house and you hit him with a baseball bat its okay, hit one to many times and the police make you the villain. A lot of people need to remember in Canada, that our self defense laws are very restricted. Living beside the US makes a lot of think we can beat the crap out of anyone who threatens us, but that is not the case.

However the law is being relaxed due to the infamous Chinese Grocery store incident in Toronto. What happened was a crazy guy robbed a grocery store, the guy came back and an employee detained him. The police came by and arrested both of them. You see in Canada, you cannot citizen arrest someone if they leave the place of a crime and come back.
So what happened is they gave the robber a plea deal to testify against the employee being accused of forceable confinement and assault. It went to court however there was such a public response that it was dismissed and the Prime Minister stepped in and declared the employee a hero.

It was quite a sad and controversial affair, as most Canadians saw the whole court case as pointless. The problem is elites in Canada want people to have no individual right to defend themselves and to rely  and have full faith and confidence in the authorities. No one is asking for the Castle doctrine, but the rules need to be changed and they are.

Another famous case was a drug store owner who shot a thief and was vilifed as a murderer and a jury said he was no guilty. However in Alberta guys were trying to blow up a firebomb at a house and the farmer started shooting in the air to scare them away and was charged.

I ask you this: Do you have any right to take the life of someone else's son or daughter?

As for the question about the killed kids family... who cares? They should have taught their kid to be good people instead of an asshole. Its their fault, not the kid who DEFENDED HIMSELF AND POTENTIALLY HIS LIFE. So, yes I absolutely have the right to take anyone's life when they are threatening my life.

You have to consider the larger area here. This wasn't a one time issue, this was a continuous attack from a bully and potentially his friends over and over again. The bullied kid even went so far to avoid them by taking different routes home. They sought him out to do harm and eventually it very well could have moved on to his own severe injury or death.

Who cares about the family? What kind of abhorent mentality is that? 

So, just because the kid was a bully, do you think his parents never teached him to be a good person or didn't care? Do you know most parents don't know about their kids being bullies because either the school doesn't do anything about it or the bullying is done hidden from view? Don't you think the bully's parents loved their kid just as much the victim's kid parents did? 

Don't patronize me about how bullying occurs, I know perfectly right how it goes and everything that you do to avoid it and still never working because the aggressions continue, I lived through that hell for two years. Still that doesn't justify murdering someone. 

You know what, I'm through with this topic. The disregard I see for another's life is excrutiantgly high and it sincerely sickens me. "An eýe for an eye will make the world go blind".

This is the right way to handle a bully :)

Did he have mace? What would you do when confronted with vioelnce against you? Its easy to say do this or do that to cause less harm, but how about those kids dont cause him harm so he has to defend himself. Anyone who is willing to harm others has everything coming to them that happens. It was their choice to put them selves in that spot not his. They could have chosen to not bother others and keep to themselves. Personal responisiblity.

I have been confronted with violence before by a group.  I fought back (and got my ass kicked) , but after that was left alone.  Normally bullies don't like it when you fight back.  I said that the guy could have gotten mace, because if he went to get a knife - it means that the kid took the time to think about what he was doing and that would have been a better alternative.  Now I agree that bullies deserve getting their teeth punched down their throats, but stabbing someone to death is never the right solution.  The original victim should have went to the school with his problem, and if they didn't do anything he should have went to the police.  If they didn't do anything, then mace in the eyes.

Being hit in the face with that seems worse than being stabbed to me.