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pezus said:
Jumpin said:
Japan will be firm Nintendo territory this coming generation.

This is exactly the same situation PSP was in vs. the DS in Japan. PSP wasn't selling very well and then suddenly it started outselling DS regularly. I expect the same for Vita once it has some proper Japanese games.

Except that the only reason the PSP started outselling the DS was because the DS achieved total market saturation. It has sold 33million copies in a country of 127million people. There is a DS for more then 1 in 4 Japanese people. The psp has only started outselling the ds because of how few potential gamers there are left in Japan who don't already have a ds. 



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I'm on s phone do I can't quote you basil but I hate sony this gen. Their pricing, policies, and games are atrocious and seeing them fail in the market warms my heart because their fans, who are the worst thing about them, have nothing to say but excuses. Before this week's numbers sony fans were still touting vita as some techno wizardry dream machine with awesome games and were constantly defending its faults like expensive memory and these numbers prove that fanboy stuff is just talk.



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kowenicki said:
DarkDesent666 said:
My money is the low numbers are due to the wifi model being nearly sold out and memory cards being completely sold out.


Amazon Japan seems to have plenty of supply of everything Vita related.

According to translation by google chrome for the 32 gig memory card  Only 2 left in there. Order In Stock. Also we are talking about numbers that ended 3 days ago they could have gotten stock. 



killeryoshis said:
mhsillen said:
killeryoshis said:
This thread is sooooo interesting. New gen new story. While the Vita Numbers are bad I predict that it will follow the trend of the PSP and PS3. It will sell better over time. I also expect 3DS numbers to decline unless it sees more expanded audience games. The redesign that I predict that is on the way will help it sell higher. Anyway this thread will be fun to look at four years from now I'm bookmarking it.

Mario kart and Mario are games that sell in the 20 mil range, how is that not expanded audience.


Expanded audience=New kinds of people who never played video games. Mario games cannot be expanded market games since they aren't pulling  a whole new audience. They are more core games since they are only expanding a previous audience. Same goes with Nintendogs and Brain Age. 

If a game last generation is a expanded audience game. Next Gen it will be a core game.

I understand and your point is well takin but the ds and wii  Mario games had sales explosions such as hardly has been reached before.  But maybe as you say expanded audience games like  wii sports and the like  were the reason.



Euphoria14 said:
I think everyone should relax and remember the early reports that stated something like 86% sellout of WiFi model and 54% or so for the 3G version.

Obviously demand is for the WiFi model and with SONY giving 100 hours 3G to those who purchased the first 500k 3G versions, it is easy to assume they overshipped the version the consumers did not want, hence the reason why the initial shipment did not sellout.

We will need to wait for word about a new shipment of just WiFi models to be absolutely sure.

Exactly.  I wouldn't be surprised if this week saw the sellout of 95%-100% of the Wi-Fi model.  We'll have to wait til Sony adjusts their manufactoring to push out much more Wi-Fi models than 3G models.  Of course, you also have the fact that Vita actually has competition upon its release, and not just from last gen handhelds.  Nintendo dropped the price of the 3DS by $80 and there have been 3 games that just recently launched on it that appeal greatly to Japan (2 Mario games and a MH game).  While I was expecting a little over 100K this week, these numbers still don't surprise me.  I think 2012 will be much kinder to the Vita in Japan, as it will probably see a small pricecut near the end of the year, as well as have more games that appeal to Japanese gamers.



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WOW 3DS!!!



Most reports are indicating that the Wifi model is out of stock and the 3G model is on shelves in low demand.

Sony obviously should have made a second shipment of Wifi Vita's; the fact they are sold out and they didn't make a second shipment shows there is a shortage.

This is also why they only launched in Japan and not globally, they wanted to avoid the shortage they knew they were going to have (which still happened, just not for the 3G version).

The reason for the shortage is because the components the Vita uses are produced at factories that have other companies buying production time. There is only so much time and floor space in these factories, so Sony is only getting a small portion of the components they would need to produce the Vitas for a global launch.

Sony's only real mistake here was that they overestimated demand for the 3G Vita. The rest is simply external factors limiting production of Wifi models.



BasilZero said:
dany612 said:
VGKing said:
Slimebeast said:
VGKing said:
Slimebeast said:
Maybe the consumers learned from what happened to the 3DS and are forcing a price cut on Vita.


Its never going to happen.

How do you know?

The dramatic 3DS price cut happened after the official launch price of Vita was announced and many people got worried Vita would be considered too expensive and here we have relatively week launch sales. I think it's inevitable.


The only reason the 3DS got a price cut was because Nintendo overpriced it at launch. They were being kinda greedy.

But Sony had said that they are taking a loss on Vita, so there is no room for a price cut. Yes, it is expensive compared to the 3DS but there's a reason for that. Its a much more powerful system. All the Vita needs now is a killer-app.

The weak launch sales are due to it launching too late in the holidays, and strong competition from the 3DS which is being marketed towards kids. The DS is already being phased out so the 3DS is essentially taking its place. Sony needs to start phashing out the PSP to increase Vita sales.

Why did you say that?


Nintendo is technically targeting children, how many Rated T and M games do you think Nintendo even make? Yes, even if a game is rated E which is for Everyone, it was originally created to appeal to the younger age. (Which isnt a bad thing, their making millions on that idea).


A game without massacres does not mean kids game.  Hell I'm 52 and I enjoy Mario games because they are fun and very well made. My friends in my age group have a great time with cart. I would say they make games for everyone.  Although I do love goldeneye and COD games as well as well as resident evil.



BasilZero said:
Jumpin said:
Japan will be firm Nintendo territory this coming generation.


What are you talking about....Japan has always been Nintendo's territory ever since the Wii and NDS came out lmao.

I am not sure why you are protesting my statement when your counter-statement doesn't contradict my statement in any way or form.



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pezus said:
Jumpin said:
Japan will be firm Nintendo territory this coming generation.

This is exactly the same situation PSP was in vs. the DS in Japan. PSP wasn't selling very well and then suddenly it started outselling DS regularly. I expect the same for Vita once it has some proper Japanese games.

That is because Monster Hunter came out for it, and DS didn't have it available. Now 3DS has Monster, but Vita doesn't, and it also doesn't have Dragon Quest, Pokemon, or Mario Kart either. The situation is different. I would have said that Final Fantasy would have been a potential big gun for it, but over the last few years, the Final Fantasy milk went sour; so even if it did secure exclusive rights to that series, it won't be as big of a hit as it would have been 5-6 years ago.



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