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Euphoria14 on 28 December 2011
Seece said:
DarkDesent666 said:
Seece said:
DarkDesent666 said:
Slimebeast said:
How do you know?

The dramatic 3DS price cut happened after the official launch price of Vita was announced and many people got worried Vita would be considered too expensive and here we have relatively week launch sales. I think it's inevitable.

3DS was being sold for about as much more as they dropped the price, vita is being sold at cost or at a loss and the price won't drop until the manufacturing cost drops.

Because Sony have never dropped the price further on a product that is making a loss :-S

Not without dropping the manufactoring cost.

I've lost count on how many PS3 price cuts there have been so I won't argue that. Not that it's a lock in for price cuts only to occur when the manufacturing costs drop, 3DS is the first drastic price cutting we've seen in a long time, so if Sony got scared 3DS was running away with marketshare everywhere (and lets face it, they live for marketshare) they might cut regardless of cheaper manufacturing costs. And what's not say they don't lower costs by next August and mirror the 3DS's path almost exactly?

I'm not saying they will, I think it's more logical for Sony not to cut, but I really don't think it can be called.

Official cuts? I would say (3). People try to claim (6) but that is not true.

 

November 2007 - 40GB released at $399 (Replaced previously discontinued 20GB), 80GB dropped to $499 (Replaced recently discontinued 60GB)

August 2009 Gamescom - PS3 80GB dropped to $299 to clear stock for $299 Slim 120GB launching September 1st. Also had $399 250GB model.

September 2011 - PS3 160GB dropped to $249 and 320GB dropped to $299 (With Uncharted 3) and $349 (Move Bundle).

 

Between these times we had revision changes resulting in fire sales of old revisions to clear remaining stock for introduction of new models.

 

 

So we get :

2007 - $100 price drop on each model    $500 & $600 -> $400 & $500

2009 - $100 price drop on each model    $400 & $500 -> $300 & $400

2011 - $50 price drop on low end model, $100 price drop on high end model.  $300 & $400 -> $250 & $300-350* (Depending on bundle)

 

I do not count fire sales of discontinued models as official price cuts.



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Jumpin on 28 December 2011

Japan will be firm Nintendo territory this coming generation.



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Salnax on 28 December 2011
DarkDesent666 said:
Salnax said:
Question! What are the big Vita releases for the next month or so? I know about the 3DS's next few months of software, and they look good, but is the Vita going to have a drought like the 3DS did, or will it quickly receive new software.

For the record, here are the 3DS's next few months of notable titles in Japan.

January: Ace Combat 3D, Beyond the Labyrinth, Rhythm Thief, Resident Evil Revelations
February: Girl's RPG, NewLovePlus, Theatrhythm, Tekken
March: Hatsune Miku, Metal Gear Solid 3, Kid Icarus Uprising

What does the Vita have to match this?

From what I can tell it's got a steady stream of games for the next 6 months and Sony says they have games planned out into 2013

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-20-sony-vita-software-schedule-planned-out-up-to-2013

As for specific games I'm not sure too many TBA's and 2012s 

Yeah, I was afraid of this. At the moment Vita has promises where the 3DS has release dates. I'm predicting a situation similar to the one the 3DS was in for a few months.



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killeryoshis on 28 December 2011
mhsillen said:
killeryoshis said:
This thread is sooooo interesting. New gen new story. While the Vita Numbers are bad I predict that it will follow the trend of the PSP and PS3. It will sell better over time. I also expect 3DS numbers to decline unless it sees more expanded audience games. The redesign that I predict that is on the way will help it sell higher. Anyway this thread will be fun to look at four years from now I'm bookmarking it.

Mario kart and Mario are games that sell in the 20 mil range, how is that not expanded audience.


Expanded audience=New kinds of people who never played video games. Mario games cannot be expanded market games since they aren't pulling  a whole new audience. They are more core games since they are only expanding a previous audience. Same goes with Nintendogs and Brain Age. 

If a game last generation is a expanded audience game. Next Gen it will be a core game.



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DarkDesent666 on 28 December 2011
Salnax said:
DarkDesent666 said:
Salnax said:
Question! What are the big Vita releases for the next month or so? I know about the 3DS's next few months of software, and they look good, but is the Vita going to have a drought like the 3DS did, or will it quickly receive new software.

For the record, here are the 3DS's next few months of notable titles in Japan.

January: Ace Combat 3D, Beyond the Labyrinth, Rhythm Thief, Resident Evil Revelations
February: Girl's RPG, NewLovePlus, Theatrhythm, Tekken
March: Hatsune Miku, Metal Gear Solid 3, Kid Icarus Uprising

What does the Vita have to match this?

From what I can tell it's got a steady stream of games for the next 6 months and Sony says they have games planned out into 2013

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-20-sony-vita-software-schedule-planned-out-up-to-2013

As for specific games I'm not sure too many TBA's and 2012s 

Yeah, I was afraid of this. At the moment Vita has promises where the 3DS has release dates. I'm predicting a situation similar to the one the 3DS was in for a few months.

Eh I'm just being lazy, if I look up a specific game I can get a release date if I really looked (Gravity Rush is coming out  February 9, 2012 in Japan) but all this lists don't give any dates if you want to search all the games by hand be my guest. 

Here's a full list 

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/53273/t1688828-full-list-of-psv-games/#0

EDIT here's a head start all these games (aside from the ones that say window) are are going to be in NA on launch (aka febuary) so they'll be out in japan then or sooner probably (some are already out in japan)

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/12/22/playstation-vita-launch-lineup-and-details/



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Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 on 28 December 2011

Heck, at least vita is outselling the 360 right guys???... guys??



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dany612 on 28 December 2011
VGKing said:
Slimebeast said:
VGKing said:
Slimebeast said:
Maybe the consumers learned from what happened to the 3DS and are forcing a price cut on Vita.


Its never going to happen.

How do you know?

The dramatic 3DS price cut happened after the official launch price of Vita was announced and many people got worried Vita would be considered too expensive and here we have relatively week launch sales. I think it's inevitable.


The only reason the 3DS got a price cut was because Nintendo overpriced it at launch. They were being kinda greedy.

But Sony had said that they are taking a loss on Vita, so there is no room for a price cut. Yes, it is expensive compared to the 3DS but there's a reason for that. Its a much more powerful system. All the Vita needs now is a killer-app.

The weak launch sales are due to it launching too late in the holidays, and strong competition from the 3DS which is being marketed towards kids. The DS is already being phased out so the 3DS is essentially taking its place. Sony needs to start phashing out the PSP to increase Vita sales.

Why did you say that?



 

        

DarkDesent666 on 28 December 2011
BasilZero said:
Jumpin said:
Japan will be firm Nintendo territory this coming generation.


What are you talking about....Japan has always been Nintendo's territory ever since the Wii and NDS came out lmao.

 

Salnax said:
Question! What are the big Vita releases for the next month or so? I know about the 3DS's next few months of software, and they look good, but is the Vita going to have a drought like the 3DS did, or will it quickly receive new software.

For the record, here are the 3DS's next few months of notable titles in Japan.

January: Ace Combat 3D, Beyond the Labyrinth, Rhythm Thief, Resident Evil Revelations
February: Girl's RPG, NewLovePlus, Theatrhythm, Tekken
March: Hatsune Miku, Metal Gear Solid 3, Kid Icarus Uprising

What does the Vita have to match this?

Wipeout 2048 (Jan 19)
Tales of Innocence (Jan 26)
Ragnarok Odyseey (Feb 2)
Gravity Daze (Feb 9)
Ninja Gaiden Sigma Plus (Feb 23)

There are other games but I cant see anything good.

You have to realize though its not a bad list since you cant really compare a system thats been out for a year by the time those games you listed against a system that was just barely released.

I wouldnt expect anything worthwhile being released until after summer (except for Tales of Innocence which is gonna be huge in Japan).

Nothing announced in March so far. I wouldnt be surprised if both systems get announcements in Feb for future release dates. But we wont see actual announcements or anything worthwhile until E3 2012.

Street Fighter X Tekken is coming out in march and a Twisted Metal  port is coming out in Feb. 

I know there are more and frankly it seems like the Vita's line up is on par with the 3DSes despite it's huge unfair lead.



DarkDesent666 on 28 December 2011
BasilZero said:
Oh ya forgot about those, I just went by what GameFaqs had in their release history XD

I'm still waiting for a release date for Persona 4 and Dragon's Crown *-*! Along with the recent news about a new Nippon Icchi game coming out on the PSVita makes me wanna get it! So many RPGs , I just hope Tales of Innocence comes out in the US or Europe at least so I can import it.

I had to import my copy of Breath of Fire 3 for the PSP when it came out in Europe ;x.

Yeah like I told the other guy alot of games do have release dates they just aren't on the existing lists so you have to look them up one by one. Also some games are confirmed for NA launch but not out in japan so we know they'll be here at feb even if they haven't annouced an actual release date individually. 



DKHustlin on 28 December 2011

Nintendo ballin out also glad to see sony doing terrible haha nice numbers vita



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