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Goddbless on 10 November 2011
maverick40 said:
yo_john117 said:
maverick40 said:
wow the delusion in this thread is incredible. What 1st party software could microsoft hope to bring out next year for a new console. Halo 4 releasing christmas 2012 is very likely but on the 360.

Actually contrary to popular belief MS has a good number of studios that supposedly aren't doing all that much. Now I imagine they aren't just sitting on their laurels doing nothing.

And there isn't really any delusion going around in this thread so I don't know what your getting off about that. There's just a lot of speculation, like what you are doing.

Name the studios for me because i am finding it hard to pick out any main 1st party studio that has been idle for over a year and could possibly produce a next gen title in 2 years.

I think he's referring to Spawnpoint Studios and Firebird Studios.

Also there's: Soho Productions, MGS Vancouver, and of course their newest addition Twisted Pixel Games.



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M.U.G.E.N on 10 November 2011
kowenicki said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
snakenobi said:
kowenicki said:


it isnt fantasy land at all.

MS can reduce the price of the 360 and remain borderline proftable in that division. 

what does that have to do with 720 launching next year

MS can reduce the price?

so can others

but they don't need to and won't.they are still a buisness with a plan and strategy to recover what they invested and plane for the future

Launching a nextbox soon when there is no way sony can afford to do so for at least 2 years would be a perfect move. 

what?

SONY can easily release PS4 in 2013

you taking this in a console war and a fan sense

And actually yes.... Sony have nothing left.  They have nothing left to play with.. nothing. 

jst shows with what you were commenting

Their financials are dire, much more dire than people seem to realise.

their financials are dire cause they invested in PS3 and had a long term plan

everybody wrote them off in 2007-2008 as going bankrupt within a year

and what now,they are the top selling console?

 

their financials current are down because of currency reasons,future plans(ecosystem creation,sony tablets/erricsson purchase/qriocity/VITA/R&D/PS4 investment)

 

Nothing about that is fanciful in the slightest.

anyways let me jst break it down to you why MS will not and doesn't have to(even if they have to beat SONY/NINTY) release next year

 

1)Current crisis and poverty and coming global crisis of next year,europe and usa both have over $30 trillion dollar of debt

2)GTA,COD NEXT,HALO 4 - rockstar and activiosn will fuck MS if they release 720 next year cayse it will go against the sales of GTA and COD partnership they have.Plus HALO 4 release.

3)Alot of other publishers will also not like it and will start supporting WiiU or PS3

4)They don't have enough studios to compete with SONY and NINTY for exclusives

5)Ecosytems are being formed between phones,tablets,PC,Television.The market is no longer open.manufactures can make their own OS and have it on all their devices.They need MS to make them an ecosytem on tablets and phones and pay royalties.

With Android,iOS ecosystems huge userbase.MS will need its own ecosystem.

Apple is gonna converge its MAC and iOS ecosytems,they already have done alot with OSX lion  and

SONY is building its own Network(Qriocity music and movies) which will run through VITA,BRAVIA,PS4,SONY phones(thats why they bought Erricsson share recently).

MS is struggling as it doesn't have a hardware department(for phones,tv,tablet).They are struggling with WP7.they will still try with Windows 8,WP7 Nokia partnership,720.

6)MS has invested big time in XBOX and 360,they are still in RED big time.






You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must



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yo_john117 on 10 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:


You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must

You voluntarily got into this debate by posting that clapping gif. Now you have 1 of 2 options to pick. You can wuss out and not debate anymore like you were planning to do anyways and have everyone think that you are wrong for eternity and no one will trust what you say from here on out or you can man up and debate with Kown untill things get so heated that one or both of you get banned from which you will get respect from the vast majority on this site because that my friend is how true manly debating works.

Now with that said, which will you choose? Will you choose to be a man or a maggot?



yo_john117 on 10 November 2011
maverick40 said:
yo_john117 said:
maverick40 said:
wow the delusion in this thread is incredible. What 1st party software could microsoft hope to bring out next year for a new console. Halo 4 releasing christmas 2012 is very likely but on the 360.

Actually contrary to popular belief MS has a good number of studios that supposedly aren't doing all that much. Now I imagine they aren't just sitting on their laurels doing nothing.

And there isn't really any delusion going around in this thread so I don't know what your getting off about that. There's just a lot of speculation, like what you are doing.

Name the studios for me because i am finding it hard to pick out any main 1st party studio that has been idle for over a year and could possibly produce a next gen title in 2 years.

Here's a list of all 1st party studios.

 

  • 343 Industries - Halo series
  • BigPark - Kinect Joy Ride
  • Good Science Studio - Kinect Adventures
  • Lionhead Studios - Fable series, Black & White series
  • MGS Family - Untitled Project
  • Soho Productions -
  • MGS Mobile Gaming - ilomilo
  • MGS Vancouver - Untitled Project
  • Rare Ltd. - Kinect Sports, Banjo-Kazooie series, Viva Piñata, Perfect Dark series
  • Turn 10 Studios - Forza Motorsport series
  • Twisted Pixel Games - The Gunstringer, 'Splosion Man, Ms. Splosion Man, The Maw, Comic Jumper: The Adventures of Captain Smiley
  • Xbox Live Productions - South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!
And you need to realize that most game companies can work on multiple games at a time so it's a safe bet to say the majority of these studios is working on a game for the next box. And that's not counting any possible 3rd party exclusives.


kain_kusanagi on 10 November 2011

If this is true, I'm willing to bet that the next Xbox won't just be backwards compatible with Xbox 360 games, it will seamlessly play them like how a PC from 2011 plays PC games from 1999. My guess is that Halo 4 will release for Xbox 360, but work perfectly with the next Xbox releasing at the same time.

With that said, I doubt MS would release a new machine next year. 2013 is the earliest I think they'd do it.



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M.U.G.E.N on 10 November 2011
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:


You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must

You voluntarily got into this debate by posting that clapping gif. Now you have 1 of 2 options to pick. You can wuss out and not debate anymore like you were planning to do anyways and have everyone think that you are wrong for eternity and no one will trust what you say from here on out or you can man up and debate with Kown untill things get so heated that one or both of you get banned from which you will get respect from the vast majority on this site because that my friend is how true manly debating works.

Now with that said, which will you choose? Will you choose to be a man or a maggot?

 


hmm no the options are

get into a bitch fight and hear people whine back and forth for ages..

or

not give a fuck

I chose not to give a fuck

I agree with the post I replied to, it's not a black and white situation. there are many factors to consider. I am an Accounting major, i CAN go into detailss, read the financials etc etc and drag this debate for a long long time. but will I? Hell no! I have better things to do than that, I almost left this place because such arguments were taking too much of my daily time (hence why I don't post much on vgc anymore)

so I chose the path of not giving a fuck as much as possible nowadays...

oh wait..my bad..just one sensible option left for you :) I mean seriously why even bitch about sony in this thread at all...these console warrior arguments have made this forums a sour place to be. gt vs forza...graphicz the beztz etc etc..new console is coming...everyone should be happy..seriously it has come to a point I don't even bother with moronic comments about PSV even...it's just not worth it anymore



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yo_john117 on 10 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:


You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must

You voluntarily got into this debate by posting that clapping gif. Now you have 1 of 2 options to pick. You can wuss out and not debate anymore like you were planning to do anyways and have everyone think that you are wrong for eternity and no one will trust what you say from here on out or you can man up and debate with Kown untill things get so heated that one or both of you get banned from which you will get respect from the vast majority on this site because that my friend is how true manly debating works.

Now with that said, which will you choose? Will you choose to be a man or a maggot?

 


"Rabble"

I chose not to give a fuck

"More rabble"

Taking away all the needless drab in this post we are left with one relevent sentence. Now by choosing not to give one of these "fucks" of yours you are basically waving the white flag and proclaiming to all these good users around here that you are wrong.

And because of that your position in these forums will start to deteriorate at an alarming rate until you will reach the level of what is bascially Vgchartz version of a second rate citizen.



Play4Fun on 10 November 2011

I welcome the new generation with open arms.



M.U.G.E.N on 10 November 2011
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:


You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must

You voluntarily got into this debate by posting that clapping gif. Now you have 1 of 2 options to pick. You can wuss out and not debate anymore like you were planning to do anyways and have everyone think that you are wrong for eternity and no one will trust what you say from here on out or you can man up and debate with Kown untill things get so heated that one or both of you get banned from which you will get respect from the vast majority on this site because that my friend is how true manly debating works.

Now with that said, which will you choose? Will you choose to be a man or a maggot?

 


"Rabble"

I chose not to give a fuck

"More rabble"

Taking away all the needless drab in this post we are left with one relevent sentence. Now by choosing not to give one of these "fucks" of yours you are basically waving the white flag and proclaiming to all these good users around here that you are wrong.

And because of that your position in these forums will start to deteriorate at an alarming rate until you will reach the level of what is bascially Vgchartz version of a second rate citizen.


that saddens me...not

and btw I just read your last sentence :P don't bother replying again cuz I ain't reading



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yo_john117 on 10 November 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
yo_john117 said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
kowenicki said:


You are actually applauding that incoherent rambling skewed nonsense...

Go do some reading of your own, go to bloomberg and read the recent sony stories, look at the financial statements and releases, look at what I actually said, look at what dodece said in his post and then come to a sensible conclusion.  Forget gaming divisions.. think corporations... 

There are very good reasons why the sony stock price has fallen 50% in a year, why it is down 20% in just a couple of weeks and why they cant make a profit no matter what they do right now.

 

 

 

lol hell no :D I ain't getting into ANY arguments that will drag on (hence why you don't see me posting much) so think what you must

You voluntarily got into this debate by posting that clapping gif. Now you have 1 of 2 options to pick. You can wuss out and not debate anymore like you were planning to do anyways and have everyone think that you are wrong for eternity and no one will trust what you say from here on out or you can man up and debate with Kown untill things get so heated that one or both of you get banned from which you will get respect from the vast majority on this site because that my friend is how true manly debating works.

Now with that said, which will you choose? Will you choose to be a man or a maggot?

 


"Rabble"

I chose not to give a fuck

"More rabble"

Taking away all the needless drab in this post we are left with one relevent sentence. Now by choosing not to give one of these "fucks" of yours you are basically waving the white flag and proclaiming to all these good users around here that you are wrong.

And because of that your position in these forums will start to deteriorate at an alarming rate until you will reach the level of what is bascially Vgchartz version of a second rate citizen.


that saddens me...not

and btw I just read your last sentence :P don't bother replying again cuz I ain't reading