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Dodece on 10 November 2011

@M.U.G.E.N

Your actions contradict your self professed position. You are the farthest thing from disinterested when you lavish a user with the kind of praise that you provided. You might have a point if their argument was factual, made some real valid points, or was well constructed. However the only thing that post had going for it was the propaganda value. It is all well and good to applaud workmanship, but that post was just plain crass.

Oh by the way your hardly acting mature. What are we on the playground. Staying out of the line of fire is as easy as making measured thoughtful responses, or addressing the topic itself rather then what others have said. Excuse me you don't like console warrior machinations. That is like one of the biggest draws of these forums. How can you decry them as being foul while handing out applause. For that matter why use a forum. This is the format for long drawn out discussions. If your so big into cut and run posting why not use a chat room.

I know you are going to read this by the way. I don't for one minute expect you to put this thread on ignore.



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Munkeh111 on 10 November 2011
maverick40 said:
wow the delusion in this thread is incredible. What 1st party software could microsoft hope to bring out next year for a new console. Halo 4 releasing christmas 2012 is very likely but on the 360.

What is the M$ first party? 343 are working on Halo 4, but we haven't seen any gameplay for it. And Rare are working on Fable Lost Journeys for Kinect mostly

The main thing that makes me think that they might delay it is Kinect, unless they keep that going for their next console too



Potable_Toe on 10 November 2011
Munkeh111 said:
maverick40 said:
wow the delusion in this thread is incredible. What 1st party software could microsoft hope to bring out next year for a new console. Halo 4 releasing christmas 2012 is very likely but on the 360.

What is the M$ first party? 343 are working on Halo 4, but we haven't seen any gameplay for it. And Rare are working on Fable Lost Journeys for Kinect mostly

The main thing that makes me think that they might delay it is Kinect, unless they keep that going for their next console too

Lionhead Studios make the Fable franchise, Rare are currently working on an unknown project having completed Kinect Sports Season 2.



Sweep on 11 November 2011
Dodece said:
Strategically speaking it would be a sound business decision. Microsoft does hold the competitive edge against both Sony and Nintendo if it pushes that advantage there is a better then fifty percent chance that it could leverage one of its competitors out of the market, or mortally wound said competitor to the point where it is no longer viable as a competitor. Both players are suffering from one problem or another.

Nintendo is currently undervalued by the core community, because their current console has overwhelmingly been geared towards the casual market place. Which is fast becoming a barren wasteland. Nintendo not only needs the early launch due to dwindling sales of current hardware, but they need the real estate to make serious amends with their tried and true core demographic. Microsoft would do well not to give them that space, or give them any real chance to court the third party developers who might spread the wealth thanks to hardware parity.

Sony on the other hand is simply out of position, and has financial concerns to grapple with in the near term. This has to be made clear. Sony is a company and not a charity. Their primary concern now must be profitability in the upcoming year. Going into the red to be competitive is no longer a option. It is only the fast path to management getting a pink slip. Four years of losses are weighing on investors, and there is only so long that disasters that are both natural and man made can garner sympathy and understanding. With the PS3 only recently turning a profit on the whole, and with the Vita on the horizon. Sony is poorly positioned to invest in yet another large upfront loss.

Microsoft basically just needs to show up, and Sony isn't going to so much as think about matching hardware. Yes they can match a year later, but not next year. If they have any plan to be profitable that year, or be able to deal seriously with their other floundering divisions. Would that be good for Sony in the long term. The answer is just a resounding no, but sacrifices have to be made. That year for Sony could be too long given the ground Microsoft has made this generation.

Despite what some have said Microsoft is making money hand over fist in gaming. They are milking hardcore, and building a substantial war chest. They will be going into the next generation on strong financial footing. Seriously how many times do we have to do the math on this one anyway. It isn't the hardware where Microsoft is making a real killing. It is all about Live. The subscription fees, the marketplace, and doll clothes. Not that they aren't going to town on hardware now either.

Microsoft is the only player right now in the perfect position. Either they would beat Nintendo soundly, and thus leave the way clear for Sony a year later, or the opposite could happen. Microsoft and Nintendo actually end up pairing off against one another for the generation. Leaving Sony with nothing when they show up a year late to the party. Either way Microsoft wins a victory just by virtue of showing up to the dance. This generation was really backwards. One being far ahead, and the others arriving later. Would not play out the same if two showed up first, and then a third showed up later.

Anyway nobody believes me, but Microsoft is doing something far more relevant to sales this holiday season by totally revamping the Live interface and functionality. It is the only substantial value increase on tap, and if they do another spectacular marketing job with the new functionality. Then it is probably going to spurn on wider appeal with potential consumers. Far and beyond what a modest price cut would generate. Not to mention it is the only thing this holiday season that is going to have long term consequences.

I don't know why people aren't getting that novelty is a powerful driving force in the console market. After all we saw it drive the Wii through the roof with less then stellar hardware and software for that matter. Why wouldn't a console you can talk to do the exact same thing. I know everyone is dismissive, but for the gotta have the next cool thing crowd that is just totally sexy.

This time Sony will not let MS a one year advance, no way they repeat the same mistake.