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Player1x3 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Why must they always shove this Gay Rights crap down our throats?
We get it your gay just live your life away from mines.........ok


This. There are a lot more important issues people should be paying attention to

This is just the typical excuse of people who want no social change. This is and easily fixable issue that in no way impedes the handling of other issues.



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sapphi_snake said:
Spedfrom said:
Zlejedi said:
NKAJ said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ProdigyBam said:
He should care about persecuted christians first since most of the british people are christian and the culture is based on christian-judeo teachings, while at most 5-10% are homosexual, just saying..


His choice of protecting gay rights is clearly a movement to help him win public opinion. Protecting persecuted Christains would not do this, and would probably cause a massive media shit-storm.


Create a shit-storm where? Reading the daily mail it's pretty obvious that if anything, people were annoyed that funding would be based on gay rights rather than persecution of Christians. All I've read or heard for the last few months is people getting fed up because, in their view, minorities such as gays/muslims are given priority over the majority population.

Really ? That's heart warming to read some people still use common sense.

I've always thought of Poland as a very homophobic country. And you aren't helping matters, that's for sure.

They're also known to be very antisemitic.

Which is huge bullshit because there's much less antisemitic incidents here than in so called west.



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Zlejedi said:
sapphi_snake said:
Spedfrom said:
Zlejedi said:
NKAJ said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ProdigyBam said:
He should care about persecuted christians first since most of the british people are christian and the culture is based on christian-judeo teachings, while at most 5-10% are homosexual, just saying..


His choice of protecting gay rights is clearly a movement to help him win public opinion. Protecting persecuted Christains would not do this, and would probably cause a massive media shit-storm.


Create a shit-storm where? Reading the daily mail it's pretty obvious that if anything, people were annoyed that funding would be based on gay rights rather than persecution of Christians. All I've read or heard for the last few months is people getting fed up because, in their view, minorities such as gays/muslims are given priority over the majority population.

Really ? That's heart warming to read some people still use common sense.

I've always thought of Poland as a very homophobic country. And you aren't helping matters, that's for sure.

They're also known to be very antisemitic.

Which is huge bullshit because there's much less antisemitic incidents here than in so called west.

That's because you have almost no Jews living in your country after the Holocaust.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Player1x3 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Why must they always shove this Gay Rights crap down our throats?
We get it your gay just live your life away from mines.........ok


This. There are a lot more important issues people should be paying attention to

This is just the typical excuse of people who want no social change. This is and easily fixable issue that in no way impedes the handling of other issues.

There should be no social changes in the west when it comes to the rights of minorities, and by rights, I mean actual rights. Minorities in the west have so much more freedom and privileges over the actual citizens that is getting insane. How about people focusing on the rights of minorities in non-western countries, instead of being so focused on destroying European social structure from inside out? But I think you would like that to happen. How about focusing on how ''white christian americans/europeans'' (aka the evil oppressors of innocent minorities) are treated in foreign countries? Thats not important, because they are not important and are evil intolerant bigots, right sapphi?



sapphi_snake said:
Zlejedi said:
sapphi_snake said:
Spedfrom said:
Zlejedi said:
NKAJ said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ProdigyBam said:
He should care about persecuted christians first since most of the british people are christian and the culture is based on christian-judeo teachings, while at most 5-10% are homosexual, just saying..


His choice of protecting gay rights is clearly a movement to help him win public opinion. Protecting persecuted Christains would not do this, and would probably cause a massive media shit-storm.


Create a shit-storm where? Reading the daily mail it's pretty obvious that if anything, people were annoyed that funding would be based on gay rights rather than persecution of Christians. All I've read or heard for the last few months is people getting fed up because, in their view, minorities such as gays/muslims are given priority over the majority population.

Really ? That's heart warming to read some people still use common sense.

I've always thought of Poland as a very homophobic country. And you aren't helping matters, that's for sure.

They're also known to be very antisemitic.

Which is huge bullshit because there's much less antisemitic incidents here than in so called west.

That's because you have almost no Jews living in your country after the Holocaust.


Im sure thats the fault of poles and not their ''certain'' western neighbour



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Player1x3 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Player1x3 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Why must they always shove this Gay Rights crap down our throats?
We get it your gay just live your life away from mines.........ok


This. There are a lot more important issues people should be paying attention to

This is just the typical excuse of people who want no social change. This is and easily fixable issue that in no way impedes the handling of other issues.

There should be no social changes in the west when it comes to the rights of minorities, and by rights, I mean actual rights. Minorities in the west have so much more freedom and privileges over the actual citizens that is getting insane. How about people focusing on the rights of minorities in non-western countries, instead of being so focused on destroying European social structure from inside out? But I think you would like that to happen. How about focusing on how ''white christian americans/europeans'' (aka the evil oppressors of innocent minorities) are treated in foreign countries? Thats not important, because they are not important and are evil intolerant bigots, right sapphi?

They are. What do you think this initiative is?

And I don't think there are any 'white christian americans/europeans' living in any non-western countries.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Player1x3 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Zlejedi said:
sapphi_snake said:
Spedfrom said:
Zlejedi said:
NKAJ said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ProdigyBam said:
He should care about persecuted christians first since most of the british people are christian and the culture is based on christian-judeo teachings, while at most 5-10% are homosexual, just saying..


His choice of protecting gay rights is clearly a movement to help him win public opinion. Protecting persecuted Christains would not do this, and would probably cause a massive media shit-storm.


Create a shit-storm where? Reading the daily mail it's pretty obvious that if anything, people were annoyed that funding would be based on gay rights rather than persecution of Christians. All I've read or heard for the last few months is people getting fed up because, in their view, minorities such as gays/muslims are given priority over the majority population.

Really ? That's heart warming to read some people still use common sense.

I've always thought of Poland as a very homophobic country. And you aren't helping matters, that's for sure.

They're also known to be very antisemitic.

Which is huge bullshit because there's much less antisemitic incidents here than in so called west.

That's because you have almost no Jews living in your country after the Holocaust.


Im sure thats the fault of poles and not their ''certain'' western neighbour

Yes, it actually is. The Poles certainly didn't disagree with the Nazis' antisemitism. They didn't really like it when they realized that Nazis also didn't care for them much either, but they certainly were on board with whatever the Nazis did to the Jews.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:
Player1x3 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Player1x3 said:
Lyrikalstylez said:
Why must they always shove this Gay Rights crap down our throats?
We get it your gay just live your life away from mines.........ok


This. There are a lot more important issues people should be paying attention to

This is just the typical excuse of people who want no social change. This is and easily fixable issue that in no way impedes the handling of other issues.

There should be no social changes in the west when it comes to the rights of minorities, and by rights, I mean actual rights. Minorities in the west have so much more freedom and privileges over the actual citizens that is getting insane. How about people focusing on the rights of minorities in non-western countries, instead of being so focused on destroying European social structure from inside out? But I think you would like that to happen. How about focusing on how ''white christian americans/europeans'' (aka the evil oppressors of innocent minorities) are treated in foreign countries? Thats not important, because they are not important and are evil intolerant bigots, right sapphi?

They are. What do you think this initiative is?

And I don't think there are any 'white christian americans/europeans' living in any non-western countries.


I wasn't talking about this case specifically, and since this is about gay rights, i would like to know what exactly they mean by ''rights''. Marriage, for one thing, isn't one.

China, Japan, Australia, Thailand and South Africa, just to name single few major ones



sapphi_snake said:
Player1x3 said:
sapphi_snake said:
Zlejedi said:
sapphi_snake said:
Spedfrom said:
Zlejedi said:
NKAJ said:
SamuelRSmith said:
ProdigyBam said:
He should care about persecuted christians first since most of the british people are christian and the culture is based on christian-judeo teachings, while at most 5-10% are homosexual, just saying..


His choice of protecting gay rights is clearly a movement to help him win public opinion. Protecting persecuted Christains would not do this, and would probably cause a massive media shit-storm.


Create a shit-storm where? Reading the daily mail it's pretty obvious that if anything, people were annoyed that funding would be based on gay rights rather than persecution of Christians. All I've read or heard for the last few months is people getting fed up because, in their view, minorities such as gays/muslims are given priority over the majority population.

Really ? That's heart warming to read some people still use common sense.

I've always thought of Poland as a very homophobic country. And you aren't helping matters, that's for sure.

They're also known to be very antisemitic.

Which is huge bullshit because there's much less antisemitic incidents here than in so called west.

That's because you have almost no Jews living in your country after the Holocaust.


Im sure thats the fault of poles and not their ''certain'' western neighbour

Yes, it actually is. The Poles certainly didn't disagree with the Nazis' antisemitism. They didn't really like it when they realized that Nazis also didn't care for them much either, but they certainly were on board with whatever the Nazis did to the Jews.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_of_Poland

Poland has been THE safe heaven of jews in Europe until WWII, one of the biggest jewish communities in the world and one of the most tolerant countries on the matter

At the start of World War II, Poland was partitioned between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union (see: Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact). The war resulted in the death of one-fifth of the Polish population, with 90% or about 3 million of Polish Jewry killed along with approximately 3 million Polish Gentiles (Christians).[13] Although the Holocaust occurred largely in German occupied Poland there was little collaboration with the Nazis by her citizens. Collaboration by individual Poles has been described as smaller than in other occupied countries.[14][15] Statistics of the Israeli War Crimes Commission indicate that less than 0.1% of Polish gentiles collaborated with the Nazis.[16] Examples of Polish gentile attitudes to German atrocities varied widely, from actively risking death in order to save Jewish lives,[17] and passive refusal to inform on them; to indifference, blackmail,[18] and in extreme cases, participation in pogroms such as the Jedwabne massacre. Grouped by nationality, Poles represent the biggest number of people who rescued Jews during the Holocaust.[19][20]



This article doesn't show an emphasis only on gay rights rather human rights including religious rights. As such I am supportive of this, if it had just emphasized gay rights but ignored the many other human rights violations in these countries then I would be pissed. But if all human rights are an issue then I am completely supportive.

Fact is all western nations should be doing this. Egypt needs to stop its human rights violations as does Pakistan and many other countries which the UK and US offer aid.

Also those saying not to meddle in other countries affairs. Giving aid to those countries is meddling in their affairs. Fact is those countries scream and shout don't violate our sovereignty yet they beg for our countries money. Fact is if we are going to send money to these Governments then they should meet our humanitarian standards! If they don't then we shouldn't send any money!



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