By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Gaming - David Jaffe: My Take On Eurogamer's 'Controversial' Uncharted 3 Review

people just want something to complain about its wired into them. Anyway 10/10 is a great score to receive.



Around the Network
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's surprising to see something so reasonable come out of David Jaffe's mouth.



I never got the Jaffe hate, sure he is opinionated but I don't understand the people that treat him like some kind of crazy loon. Every time I have heard him speak he has always backed up his opnions.



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

Its pretty ridiculous that Eurogamers review is seen as "con-troll-versial" at all.



Intel Core i7 3770K [3.5GHz]|MSI Big Bang Z77 Mpower|Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 2 x 4GB|MSI GeForce GTX 560 ti Twin Frozr 2|OCZ Vertex 4 128GB|Corsair HX750|Cooler Master CM 690II Advanced|

zarx said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's surprising to see something so reasonable come out of David Jaffe's mouth.



I never got the Jaffe hate, sure he is opinionated but I don't understand the people that treat him like some kind of crazy loon. Every time I have heard him speak he has always backed up his opnions.

Well I haven't seen too many articles from him but the one's I have were pretty worthless. 



But seriously...i dont get the big fuss.



Intel Core i7 3770K [3.5GHz]|MSI Big Bang Z77 Mpower|Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 2 x 4GB|MSI GeForce GTX 560 ti Twin Frozr 2|OCZ Vertex 4 128GB|Corsair HX750|Cooler Master CM 690II Advanced|

Around the Network
yo_john117 said:
zarx said:
yo_john117 said:
Wow it's surprising to see something so reasonable come out of David Jaffe's mouth.



I never got the Jaffe hate, sure he is opinionated but I don't understand the people that treat him like some kind of crazy loon. Every time I have heard him speak he has always backed up his opnions.

Well I haven't seen too many articles from him but the one's I have were pretty worthless. 


Oh so it's just shoddy journalism that his given him a bad name, that explains things. I have long regarded any story that uses quotes with a massive grain of salt, whenever possible I track down the source as that is less likely to be taken completely out of context.



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

trasharmdsister12 said:
Mr Khan said:
1) So perhaps the backlash against the ultra-cinematic experience is beginning?

2) Not that the games themselves are bad, of course, even if they're not to my taste, but to praise them as the direction that all games should strive for is bad for the industry

1) I think there has always been a good number of gamers who preferred games of a non-cinematic experience and I've often seen it discussed on other sites. Around here though, given the titles that fall into this mass cinematic experience genre, it's been too sensitive a discussion to have -  given the backlash that would probably occur. Now that one well known individual of said community has clarified what many of us have been thinking all this time it's a safer thing to talk about  . I wouldn't say it's a backlash against the cinematic experience. It's just the beginning of any chance of reasonable discussion on the matter that not every game has to strive for this style.

2) And those are the exact feelings a lot of us have. By no means are these games bad. They do what they're meant to very well. But the industry has gotten into this funk that this is the way that all big budget games should be going, which simply isn't true. The critical praise of these titles has only given the notion that cinematic games are the future of the industry more support and it could only lead to hurting the industry in the future.

I prefer games with a more open nature; ones that reward exploration in more ways than just unlockable collectibles. I prefer a story that is open to me to discover through the atmosphere, setting and characters - not having a story pushed into my face. Games where there's no one way to get passed a challenge and experimentation in your approach is encouraged. I'm not averse to linear experience (heck, Portal 2 is about as linear as you can get and I love it), just experiences that are cinematic at the expense of the actual gaming to be done - and that's something Jaffe expressed just about perfectly above.

Those were my thoughts expressed more eloquently. Thank you



Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.

I agree in that a reviewer has his/her reasons to detract points from a game from his/her point of view. I never got review hating.

We have to remember a review is simply someone's take on a game, that's it. And the personal preferences are going to influence the final score.

So when some people complain about a game being 'unfairly reviewed for what it's not trying to be' (I've seen this complaint a lot), they should realise that this happens with every other form of entertainment. A guy who loves insightful movies is going to give Transformers a shit score, even if he's conscious that the movie's not trying to be insightful.

The thing is, movie/book/music reviewers are not afraid of raging fanboys on the internet, because there aren't as many as with videogames for some reason. That's why metacritics are so much lower on average for these. We complain about scores being too high and then we rage because Uncharted's lowest score is an 8 (an 8!!! Lowest score!!).



No troll is too much for me to handle. I rehabilitate trolls, I train people. I am the Troll Whisperer.

"Controversial review? What, is it a 4/10 like that Metroid review from G4?"

*Clicks link*

"8/10? Really internet?"



Salnax said:
"Controversial review? What, is it a 4/10 like that Metroid review from G4?"

*Clicks link*

"8/10? Really internet?"


My thoughts exactly!



Intel Core i7 3770K [3.5GHz]|MSI Big Bang Z77 Mpower|Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866 2 x 4GB|MSI GeForce GTX 560 ti Twin Frozr 2|OCZ Vertex 4 128GB|Corsair HX750|Cooler Master CM 690II Advanced|