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zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
Yeah yeah yeah, but how come the site gave U2 10/10, whereas this guy gave it an 8, for the same reasons...

He is meant to be a game reviewer, and this game clearly sets out to do what it wants to do, very well, he just doesn't like what it is doing


Because the games were reviewed by two completely different people 2 years apart...

A game reviewer is meant to tell you what they think of the game and their experiance with it, if you just want to know what the developers set out to do then you can watch trailers play demos and read developer interviews. Movie games accomplish what they set out to do, that doesn't mean they deserve  9-10 review scores...

But if you are a pretty large review site, you would think that they would give the Uncharted review to a fan of Uncharted type gameplay?


That would emply that they should be trying to keep fanboys who would buy the game no matter what happy. No as long as the review describes what the game is like people can decide whether the reviewers opnion matches their own. I mean it's not like the score should decide whether someone should buy the game, and it's not like the reviewer being critical of the type of gameplay will change what the reader likes right? Even if the review is critical, a fan of that type of gameplay could still come out of the review wanting to buy the game as they will know the issues raised wouldn't bother them.

They should use someone who enjoys that type of game, not a fanboy. For example, if I was asking my friends to review the game, I wouldn't ask someone who only likes first person games called CoD or Halo and nothing else would I?

Also, I should point out that the reviewer also gave Red Dead an 8, so clearly he wasn't really looking for a more open Uncharted experience, it isn't really clear what he was looking for



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This wouldn't be issue and controversial score if gamers weren't used to any game getting less than 9/10 being shit during the previous years (and even some 90+ games were boring crap if you played for more than few hours)



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Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
Yeah yeah yeah, but how come the site gave U2 10/10, whereas this guy gave it an 8, for the same reasons...

He is meant to be a game reviewer, and this game clearly sets out to do what it wants to do, very well, he just doesn't like what it is doing


Because the games were reviewed by two completely different people 2 years apart...

A game reviewer is meant to tell you what they think of the game and their experiance with it, if you just want to know what the developers set out to do then you can watch trailers play demos and read developer interviews. Movie games accomplish what they set out to do, that doesn't mean they deserve  9-10 review scores...

But if you are a pretty large review site, you would think that they would give the Uncharted review to a fan of Uncharted type gameplay?


That would emply that they should be trying to keep fanboys who would buy the game no matter what happy. No as long as the review describes what the game is like people can decide whether the reviewers opnion matches their own. I mean it's not like the score should decide whether someone should buy the game, and it's not like the reviewer being critical of the type of gameplay will change what the reader likes right? Even if the review is critical, a fan of that type of gameplay could still come out of the review wanting to buy the game as they will know the issues raised wouldn't bother them.

They should use someone who enjoys that type of game, not a fanboy. For example, if I was asking my friends to review the game, I wouldn't ask someone who only likes first person games called CoD or Halo and nothing else would I?

Also, I should point out that the reviewer also gave Red Dead an 8, so clearly he wasn't really looking for a more open Uncharted experience, it isn't really clear what he was looking for

But the reviewer did like the game he gave it an 8 FFS



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zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
Yeah yeah yeah, but how come the site gave U2 10/10, whereas this guy gave it an 8, for the same reasons...

He is meant to be a game reviewer, and this game clearly sets out to do what it wants to do, very well, he just doesn't like what it is doing


Because the games were reviewed by two completely different people 2 years apart...

A game reviewer is meant to tell you what they think of the game and their experiance with it, if you just want to know what the developers set out to do then you can watch trailers play demos and read developer interviews. Movie games accomplish what they set out to do, that doesn't mean they deserve  9-10 review scores...

But if you are a pretty large review site, you would think that they would give the Uncharted review to a fan of Uncharted type gameplay?


That would emply that they should be trying to keep fanboys who would buy the game no matter what happy. No as long as the review describes what the game is like people can decide whether the reviewers opnion matches their own. I mean it's not like the score should decide whether someone should buy the game, and it's not like the reviewer being critical of the type of gameplay will change what the reader likes right? Even if the review is critical, a fan of that type of gameplay could still come out of the review wanting to buy the game as they will know the issues raised wouldn't bother them.

They should use someone who enjoys that type of game, not a fanboy. For example, if I was asking my friends to review the game, I wouldn't ask someone who only likes first person games called CoD or Halo and nothing else would I?

Also, I should point out that the reviewer also gave Red Dead an 8, so clearly he wasn't really looking for a more open Uncharted experience, it isn't really clear what he was looking for

But the reviewer did like the game he gave it an 8 FFS

By giving it an 8, he is saying that it is worse than Child of Eden, and as good as Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (both reviewed by him), he is also saying that he thinks it is 10% worse than everyone else does



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Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:
Yeah yeah yeah, but how come the site gave U2 10/10, whereas this guy gave it an 8, for the same reasons...

He is meant to be a game reviewer, and this game clearly sets out to do what it wants to do, very well, he just doesn't like what it is doing


Because the games were reviewed by two completely different people 2 years apart...

A game reviewer is meant to tell you what they think of the game and their experiance with it, if you just want to know what the developers set out to do then you can watch trailers play demos and read developer interviews. Movie games accomplish what they set out to do, that doesn't mean they deserve  9-10 review scores...

But if you are a pretty large review site, you would think that they would give the Uncharted review to a fan of Uncharted type gameplay?


That would emply that they should be trying to keep fanboys who would buy the game no matter what happy. No as long as the review describes what the game is like people can decide whether the reviewers opnion matches their own. I mean it's not like the score should decide whether someone should buy the game, and it's not like the reviewer being critical of the type of gameplay will change what the reader likes right? Even if the review is critical, a fan of that type of gameplay could still come out of the review wanting to buy the game as they will know the issues raised wouldn't bother them.

They should use someone who enjoys that type of game, not a fanboy. For example, if I was asking my friends to review the game, I wouldn't ask someone who only likes first person games called CoD or Halo and nothing else would I?

Also, I should point out that the reviewer also gave Red Dead an 8, so clearly he wasn't really looking for a more open Uncharted experience, it isn't really clear what he was looking for

But the reviewer did like the game he gave it an 8 FFS

By giving it an 8, he is saying that it is worse than Child of Eden, and as good as Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (both reviewed by him), he is also saying that he thinks it is 10% worse than everyone else does



What's wrong with Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3?

Munkeh111 said:
zarx said:
Munkeh111 said:

They should use someone who enjoys that type of game, not a fanboy. For example, if I was asking my friends to review the game, I wouldn't ask someone who only likes first person games called CoD or Halo and nothing else would I?

Also, I should point out that the reviewer also gave Red Dead an 8, so clearly he wasn't really looking for a more open Uncharted experience, it isn't really clear what he was looking for

But the reviewer did like the game he gave it an 8 FFS

By giving it an 8, he is saying that it is worse than Child of Eden, and as good as Dynasty Warriors Gundam 3 (both reviewed by him), he is also saying that he thinks it is 10% worse than everyone else does

No he is not saying the game is worse, he is saying he didn't enjoy it as much, and didn't enjoy it as much that the majority of other reviewers... The score is in no way an exact metric of quality, it is a metric of how the reviewer personally felt the game is. And he is not alone plus other critics have been harsher than he was even if they gave it the same score or even a higher one, others have pointed out technical problems, glitches and criticised the story and said that it is not as good a game as 2 but some of them some to have upped the score to keep fans happy so that gets ignored.



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