An 8-core Llano would be smaller AND faster. That's what I can't get over.

Well, maybe their 4-cores CPU's will be better than the 8-core ones,

Has anyone read a review of them?

mixed bag really

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/amd_fx_8150fx_8120fx_6100_and_fx_4170,1.html

Thanks for the link.

Although they didin't review the 4 cores ones (they used the 8150 with half the cores disabled and OC it tho match the speeds), it's really disappointing to see that even the Phenom II x4 980 is faster than this new one.

Personally, I was hoping for a higher base clock speed out of the 8150 more towards 4.5GHz, especially considering the 1100T's base speed is 3.3GHz. Not really a clear difference.

Even though I have a 1035T 2.6GHz, there isn't enough of a performance increase between the 1035 and the 8150.

I really don't get the disappointment people are expressing. From what i understand an i-5/i-7 25k+ is more than enough for gaming and everyday use; and from the FX early test it seems like AMD is just barely catching up to Intel in some fialds, more or less in others. Therefore Ivy Bridge will leave them behind soon. I don't see how this is a bad thing, unless you must have the fastest, latest CPU in your rig just for the sake of having it. Or people just wanted to see AMD back on top. It seems an FX will be a good CPU for gaming and everyday use, imo.

Mind you i'm a pc noob.

It is a good CPU. It's just not as good as Sandy Bridge.

However, Bulldozer has been in development since forever and most of us were expecting Bulldozer (AMD FX) to well, bulldoze Intel's line of Sandy Bridge processors.

Apparently, Piledriver (the successor to Bulldozer) is coming in the next few months so most of us are hoping that those are going to be better than Sandy Bridge, hopefully match Ivy Bridge (but probably not). Since I don't really care for Intel, either way, my next CPU is going to be AMD FX8150 or a Piledriver CPU.

Here's a link to newegg. I mean, you are getting a pretty good processor for much less money than an i7 2500k.

Intel i7 six-core: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115079 999.99 USD

AMD FX 8-core: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103960 279.99 USD

You decide man.

You can't really compare those 2 cpus as they are in a different class. Bulldozer's 8 core cpu can barely hang with Intel's 4 core SB cpu's. (In single thread processing it's worse than AMD's older Phenom II series)

You should probably compare it to the Intel i5 2500k (4 core cpu): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072 $219.99 (promo on right now for $15 off so can be $204.99) Although, comparing it with the FX 8120 cpu would be better as it's the same as the 8150 just at a lower clock speed.

I like AMD, but they've failed to deliver on all the stuff they promised with Bulldozer. Hopefully they can do better with Piledriver. I remember contemplating whether to build my new system a few months ago when SB released or wait until Bulldozer came out. I guess I'm glad I didn't wait and went with the SB i7 2600k. (I do have 2 x AMD 2gb 6950's crossfire'd in my system )

And for the same (less!) amount of money you can get a 2500k which annihilates the FX-8150 in most uses, even some encoding ones where zambezi should thrash it. Plus, with the 15% MAX gain AMD is predicting for piledriver, its single-core (and everything thats not threaded to a pulp) perfomance is still going to be pathetic compared to sandy, not to mention ivy.

This bang for buck argument is getting tired, mainly because Intel offers the better value these days, with the only AMD processors being a wise purchase IMO - Athlon II x4 645, and Phenom II 965 (even got the latter for my parents  - they won't need a new PC in a loooooooooooooong time).

Bulldozer is an architecure with lots of potential, but Intel is far and away the better choice now.

Processor fanboyism is downright stupid. I don't see why people dislike Intel as much as they do. Expensive CPU's? Swing back to FX-51, FX-60, and 64x2 4800+ and check how much these cost before the C2D rolled out.

I was contemplating bulldozer too, but I'm going with the 2600k.

I wouldn't rely on those AMD marketing slides for price/performance comparisons. A 4-core i5 2500K costs less than the FX 8500 yet manages to beat it in the vast majority of benchmarks.

I suspect Piledriver + Windows 8 will give between 15-25% improvement over Bulldozer & Win7 but I'm definately not waiting any longer. I might build an AMD PC in a couple of years when Piledriver is used in APUs.