hey its dead, but dead things can be reborn

Tell that to Aerith.

uwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

nah, I'm with you. Really. The FF fan in me needs said resurrection.

PullusPardon has pretty much said it. Sqaure Enix havent known what their doing since Sakaguchi left. without him FF12 went into development hell, as did FF13. while both games might have merits, neither is considered to be exemplary.

and this is 10 years since FF10. so thats 2 mainline FF installments in the last 10 years. my personal belief is that the people in charge at the moment dont know what their doing. their constant attempts on marketing to the western hemisphere have degraded the series beyond repair.

people can deny it, but no FF is ever going to achieve FF7s success. and thats because of the choices made with FF8 that have spiraled into the development disasters of FF12, 13 and 14. fans keep saying FFVersus will save the series; someone i spoke to even called a prediction out on 8 mil sales. and theres no way FFVersus is going to do anything. we've have one main FF this gen, and without FF15 on the horizion theres no way i see any sense of recovery.

Almost everything is doomed these days.

True, XIII received mixed reviews but it still sold 6.2 million and it is still going. XIII-2 is coming and i think we are curious to not only how it will turn out, but how well it is going to sell.

FFXIV PC had a failed launch. But Square said they have been working on some patch that will revamp the whole game. It's a mmo, and they need the revenue. In addition, the PS3 version has yet to release. How well will it sell? Well, its a FF on Playstation, though mmo, it will still push enough copies/subscriptions to keep Square happy enough. Even though XIV missed its potential, it still has a chance to be financially successful, or break even. Not sure how much they have lost to date.

Final Fantasy Type 0. I believe this game is being made by the team that made Crisis Core. Even though it was announced in 2006, that should explained why the game has lagged it to be finished. Plus, its a two UMD game, that shouldn't make fans complain. However, it should be interesting to see if it comes to the West for PSP or for Vita, or maybe even Vita/PS3. The point is, in Japan this can push 1m to 1.5m if Square does right. Depending on platform in the West, this can certainly pull another 1.5m+ . Hardly a failure.

Final Fantasy Versus XIII. I'm not sure why this game has taken so long to finish. That gives people the suspicion that it may also release on xbox. I believe it will release in 2012, but it also seems unlikely due to other FF games releasing the same year. I don't think Square would crowd them together. XIII has sold more than 4.5m on PS3; if Versus receives great reviews, and slap on "makers of Kingdom Hearts" this can sell 5m+ plus lifetime. Hardly a failure.

Final Fantasy X Remake. I know fans have been crying for a VII remake, but be happy that X is coming. However, its weird that Square just did't go with an HD collection, and instead a remake for Vita/PS3. Also, leaving out the xbox after making XIII multiplat. Hype will help this sell well. I'm predicting 5-6m combined sales from Vita/PS3. Again, hardly a failure.

As you see, i fail to see how Square is killing FF. I think it's just fans overreacting from disappointment from XIII and XIV.

XII can easily be considered exemplary.

No, Versus XIII and Type-O will save the series

Is SE killing the FF series? No.

Have they already killed it? Yes.

The FF series has been pretty dead since it came to the PS2. True, FFXI was a really good MMORPG but like Spririts Within, it really wasn't a Final Fantasy game.  While JRPG's are still alive, they aren't the powerhouse they once were, especially on consoles.

It's amazing to me that people still think FFXIV is going to turn out to be anything other than a complete failure.  First off, no patch will ever save it.  Not even the FF name can save that game.  It had one of the worst launches ever.  That game was such a dissapointment it put Spore to shame.  It was broken, boring, and unfinished.  The reviews are in and no matter what they're there.  People keep clinging to hope it's going to get some miracle patch but the game is just bad.  I've been reading the updates on the game as they happen because I would love for it to be good, but it's just not going to happen. 

The game already has a terrible word of mouth and it's never going to measure up to any of the already much better MMO's out there.  It does nothing better than any game or even as well as any other game.  It's competing in a killer flooded market and they put out an unpolished turd.  There's not much coming back from that.  Even with their great idea of allowing you to change your class on the fly was already outdone by Rift.

You're also talking about it breaking even?  That game has been in developer for, what, five years?  And now they're completely remaking it?  And they haven't collected a penny on subscriptions?  No, they're never going to make money on it.  It's baffling that they're even still trying to keep it up.

I'll be incredibly surprised if the PS3 version ever even releases and the servers are still running by the end of next year.

Well said, people should take note.

I'm not going into it now, since i've said a lot about this issue in the past. but FF12 is only a part exemplary game. the part that is made by the FF Tactics team is easily phenominal. they orignally intended for Basch to be the main character, but instead they were "encouraged" to make Vaan and Penelo central characters to appeal to the Japanese auidence. this is also why these characters dont have much input into the game; because they were never designed to be in it.

the key point is that members of the development team expressed their dissapointment at how the story turned out, and Sakaguchi even expressed his dissapointment that Yasumi Matusno didnt complete directorial duties on FF12.

besides a lot of fans dont like the Gambit system. and i can understand this argument, how can you expect fans of say FF10 who spent maybe 30mins - 1 hour exploring and battling monsters, to spend 2+ hours exploring an enormous expanse, facing up to 200+ (tough) enemies. the game is good, but it has balance issues.

FF13... well i'm not happy about that game, it has its moments, but its certainly not exlemplary. i can see some fans are still in denial. the sales are staggering. FF13 alone has been in the bargain bin for at least one year now. that dosent account for all the other FF spin offs. new fans arnt buying these games. FF7s success is unlikely to EVER happen again. and it will be an achievement if even FF10s sales can happen again. and all the while Mass Effect, Fallout, Dragon Age etc are gaining new ground here in the west.