Runa216 said: Why do people seem so damn insistent that Atheists have no morals? That's one of the most infuriating things I ever deal with when it comes to religious types. Doing kind things to people around you, being generous, and generally not being an asshat is NOT a religiously exclusive trait. The only difference between people who are religious doing nice things and atheists doing nice things is that the religious types do it becuase they think it'll get them into heaven, but atheists do because they want to. so ask yourself, what moral compass is more pure? Seriously, I honestly can';t think of a more ignorant, rude, pretentious, Arrogant thing for religious people to say. That's worse than all the atheists claiming Religion is the cause of all wars. I'm an atheist and I'm probably the nicest person I know. yeah, I get in arguments all the time, but you can't deny that any time dealing with people on the internet will make ANYONE rage so hard their floor will turn into lava. Me in person is much nicer than me online. |
Atheists can have morals. ATHEISM, however, is a lack of a belief , and contains nothing except a negation.
As for your argument that the ONLY reason why religious people do things, is that somehow it is because it will get them into heaven, totally negates forms of evangelical Christianity, and other religious beliefs where the person is said to get to heaven not by what they do. Also, what you speak of ends up being a focal point of the book of Job, where Job was argued that he did good deeds because he got something from God from it. Which then leads to exactly why anyone does good. A Christian basis for doing good is out of love for God. And to desire to express this love, not to get to some destination but out of love. In the New Testament texts, there is a verse that speaks about how someone can say the love God who they have not seen, when they don't love those who are made in God's image, who they can see. Also, one can argue if one loves someone, they also love their kids.
So, back to why the heck anyone does good anyhow. Why would someone without the connection I said above, who does it merely for a moral code, do it? Is it to avoid the pain of guilt? Is it because of the warm fuzzy they get? Or is it that they have pride, and their identity is at stake if they don't do what their moral code says. So, back to your point, who has the more pure moral compass, the former I described who does things out of love for someone, or the other who is trying to avoid guilt, gain pleasure, or who has pride in their identity?