setsunatenshi said:
Player1x3 said:
Porcupine_I said:
Galaki said:
Porcupine_I said:
These aren't real Atheist! Real Atheists don't commit crime! |
Yeah. Real Atheists don't flip flop and convert when they are in trouble.
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Of course not! For a real Atheist there is nothing to convert to!
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Actually, you would be suprised. People who become atheists do so because they got picked on in high school, for an example. Rummage through an atheist's emotional baggage and you will find a pile of leftover teenage angst, a few cases of repressed rage at mommy and daddy, and an overpowering urge to feel superior wrapped around a stupendous amount of self-loathing.Its pretty easy to be an atheist when you are in your teens and 20's. Mostly because of the reasons I mentioned and because they want to rebel against the community, society or their family so they become the opposite of what they are.But I knnow quite the few cases when a person, that had close-death experience or one of their relatives did, begins to beleive in God, higher power and afterlife. so, really atheism is a pretty empty and shallow belief. I would like to see a person 5 minutes away from death and say ''there is no afterlife''.
Religious people on the other hand are ready to go trough everything for their belief and stick to it till death. Jews and Christians are best example of this.
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They simply look at the universe, at all the evidence put forth on behalf of all religious claims and simply conclude there is no logic reason to suspect a god exists.
There are thousands of religions that you chose not to believe. An atheist will just dismiss your religious claims based on the same grounds you dismiss everyone else's religious claims. Judging from that cross in your sig, I'm willing to bet you give no 2nd thought in dismissing the claim that Zeus, Odin, Thor or Allah are the true gods and they created the world, right? In the same way an atheist will look at your claims about YHWH and put it in the same category as those other gods.
And I'll tell you something else, the fastest way for a religious person to start doubting their own beliefs is traveling and meeting people in other cultures who share the same faith in totally different religions with completely opposite claims to the one this person always held.
That's one of the reason why conscient atheists tend to be more educated and better off in life on average than the general believers. (same reason why the overwhelming percentage of scientists are atheists as well)
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Oh, I hit the nerve there, didnt' I? :D
Anyway, I wont argue with you on that matter, because it would seem endless and pointless, you sound extremly militant and agressive about the suject, so there is no point.
However, the bolded points are just plain wrong tho. 1st off, Allah is the same God we worship, only different name in Arabaic, its the same only one divine God, just like Christian one. Zeus never created the world, that would require for him to be old as the earth itself, however, before the Gods, there were Titans, and Cronos was the son of Zeus. Learn your wits and ''tricky questions'' before asking them
Second off, thtas not completly or any true. Take a look at Tea Party members and supporters which are almost all christian. Not to mention ost of the worlds leaders and billionares are religious
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_billionaires
http://digitaljournal.com/article/289821
AS for science and atheism, most studies revailed that most of the scientists are either agonstic or deitstic. most of scientists beleive in higher power or ''God'' just not a certain religion with a certain God, whihc is why most of them are deistic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_and_science#List_of_studies
Than, there is also this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science (Look from 20th cenutry and onwards)
