Once again, I'm probably in the minority here, but I would love to see a Metroid game based pretty much on EO2's template but in a Sci -Fi setting. You could have the "shooting" be a bit more siginificant, not to mention adding boss battles, but l want the fundamentals to remain to be about exploring and navigating an alien world.

I loved other M. But face it the fundamentals aren't popular. I like them a lot too. But the bigger audience doesn't. Prime sold the most because people thaught it was a shooter - that's why the sequel to prime sold less then half of Prime's numbers. 

With other M, Nintendo tried to tone it down and make the game more straight forward in story as gameplay. And still the sales dropped...

Metroid is facing the worst what can happen to any form of entertainment. Irrelevance!

Since Other M failed in its clear goal off building up Metroid, Nintendo will have to go a another step further. Either 2D like roll said or total reboot...

I'm agreeing with Gumby Trucker on this one, though i also feel that some of the finer points of Other M would need to be ironed out, mostly through use of an analogue stick to drop auto-aim and more delicate platforming (which clearly the engine was capable of more delicate platforming, they just chose not to). I liked the dodge as well, the only thing broken about it was that it immediately charged your charge beam.

I still think that, from a strict gameplay perspective, Other M is the future of 3D Metroid (as far as camera perspective and movement goes), though that doesn't preclude them from making a deliciously rendered 2D game, something lavish a la The Shake Dimension

l don't disagree with you about Other M. When I say Samus should be more agile and acrobatic, by no means am l suggesting this should come at the expense of control. Otherwise, just as you say it isn't empowering at all. The funny thing about Other M is that it's actualIy not too hard to imagine those flaws you mentioned fixed. Dodging could easily be made directional with the d-pad, artificial walls could be removed from ledges and other areas, and even auto- aim could be eliminated by having Samus only shoot in the direction she is facing. I don't remember if the game used all eight directions on the d-pad for movement but this should definiteIy be the case if they continue to go with this style. As for aiming diagonally at the ceiling or at higher ground, this could have been done by pressing the B button along with facing the desired direction on the d-pad. ln fact l am hoping that this kind of control scheme (along with the first person view) is something Nintendo include in future games, if they intend to continue making Metroid in this style. They should have also given the player these options in Other M ,IMO, leaving the current ones only as an option for novices.

Also, I agree that having this level of agility is not completely possible in 3D, but if it was played in 3rd person then at least there would have been room for more interesting and sophisticated moves which definitely couldn't work in first person. That's why l feel 3rd person should be the main view, with first person used for scanning and perhaps certain weapons where it is more appropriate. A lot of people hated this in Other M but I thought it worked.

I understand your legitimate concern with sales, but without all those extra elements Metroid is just another Sci-fi FPS...Meanwhile there are games like shadow complex which AFAIK are doing well in the marketplace. If that means Metroid should become a downloadable game in order to remain relevant, I'd prefer that to it turning into just another big name shooter.

In the end, Nintendo is about making money. Metroid, the brand, is still good - you can still build on it. It's just not selling.

Reboot/Rebranding is most likely the best outcome. Even a downloadable Metroid for a small audience still requires a decent set of resources. I don't see Nintendo putting that up for it. There are many Nintendo Ip's that sold less then Other M and were more of less forgotten.

playing Other M with a remote and nunchuck is completely missing the point of the entire game. Pressing another button to shoot in certain directions is no more clunky than having a lock-on button in 3D games. In fact, I only suggested this addition because super metroid had diagonal aiming, but with other m's controls this option is actually made redundant now that I think of it. Switching back and forth between views is IMO a perfect solution to the problem of integrating agile movement and platforming with scanning and precise shooting. Scanning and platforming should have been done better in the game (not to mention lock-on being optional) , but the point still stands. Regarding movement in 1st person,I already explained why l don't think this is a great fit with Metroid anyway. And nowhere am l suggesting that Metroid should try to become a mass-market game, quite the opposite in fact.

Hold a button to aim diagonally is what Super Metroid did (Fusion and Zero Mission too, i believe). That would merely preserve the authenticity of its glory

Surprised this become in another "hate Other M thread". The fad will never end, it seems.

Hope this game plays again like Other M (2.5D) or maybe they should go with a third-person adventure, instead of a first-person adventure.

Yes this series needs a reboot (in the hands of a developer that has Christopher Nolans brain).