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Forums - Sales - American pre-order charts 30th July 2011

BHR-3 on 01 August 2011
ioi said:
dsage01 said:
ioi said:


We can debate all day long why numbers aren't as high or low as we'd like them to be but this is what the data shows I'm afraid. Maybe people who shop at the stores we track have different buying habits to yourself or to what you believe the population to have, who knows?

I could lend my opinion / analysis on all of the points you mentioned and explain possible reasons why the data is how it is, it's all down to opinion really, but this is what the raw measured data shows.

Well I'm sorry this preorder data isn't really as accurate as we would like it to be. It's no where near the 10% either. And your eariler data has proved this statement really well. I don't really need to explain. Anyways we can argue all day about this it's not like the data will suddenly change or be more accurate.


It's accurate enough for investors / publishers to subscribe to and they all seem happy enough so make of that what you will. I don't claim that every figure is 100% perfect but the methodology used is consistent throughout and historically (despite what you claim - I'm sure there are a couple of exceptions) our pre-order data is always a very strong indicator of week one sales.

uncharted 2 190k PO - 420k week 1 which went on to do over 2M before the year ended (despite the forums beliefs)

mag 250k PO (and was climbing even after the demo released)- 200k week 1

mw2 ps3 750k PO -1.7M week 1

cod bo again 860k PO - 2.35M week 1 which went on to outdo Halo reachs global week 1 after at least 2 adjustments  (same as above)

 

i believe this could be true "Maybe people who shop at the stores we track have different buying habits to yourself or to what you believe the population to have"



                                                             

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Allfreedom99 on 01 August 2011

Looks like Gears 3 has the lead to beat Halo Reach. Its going to be interesting down the stretch. Also I was sure we were going to see SW Old Republic hit the chart as it has been at the top of pre order sales on many game sales web sites such as amazon this past week.




dsage01 on 01 August 2011
axumblade said:
Are Sony fans just not preordering games this season? There's no Ratchet, Twisted Metal or Resistance on this preorder list...

I have to give the 360 some credit. It completely owns this list. 12 titles is impressive, especially when the closest competitor only has 5 titles.


Those games look very well underhyped to me.



Seece on 01 August 2011
BHR-3 said:

uncharted 2 190k PO - 420k week 1 which went on to do over 2M before the year ended (despite the forums beliefs)

mag 250k PO (and was climbing even after the demo released)- 200k week 1

mw2 ps3 750k PO -1.7M week 1

cod bo again 860k PO - 2.35M week 1 which went on to outdo Halo reachs global week 1 after at least 2 adjustments  (same as above)

 

i believe this could be true "Maybe people who shop at the stores we track have different buying habits to yourself or to what you believe the population to have"

Uncharted 2 - Really not surprised this doesn't kill it in pre orders, it's a typical PS3 core game.

MAG - Got terrible reviews, lots of people cancelled their pre orders I imagin.

MW2 and COD BO, very casual core centrict title, BO on 360 didn't beat Reach either, and that did way above Reach.

ioi was talking about Americas first weeks sales so PS3 BO beating Reach global is completely irrelevent in this topic.



 

dsage01 on 01 August 2011
wilco said:

@dsage01

You need to calm down. The numbers might not be 100% accurate but I'm sure they are more reliable than your guestimations. VGchartz is tracking retailers, what are you doing? Everything you're saying is based on questionable logic and not raw data.


I'm basing it all from last year's preorders or the prequel's week 1. Doesn't AC Revelations look too much of a big jump from brotherhood to you? Look

19 Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood X360 16 6,426 52,586
6 Assassin's Creed: Revelations X360 16 33,020 238,093

It's either 360 owners love preordering like crazy in the U.S. and PS3 owners don't preorder at all or there is something heavily wrong with these numbers.





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yo_john117 on 01 August 2011

Gears 3 is really starting to fall behind more.

Week Halo Reach Gears of War 3 Net difference
26 3,959/50,777 30,053/238,422 26,094/187,645
25  8,179/58,956  27,618/266,040 19,439/207,084 
24 18,947/77,903  55,197/321,237  36,250/243,334 
23 13,015/90,918  59,594/380,831  46,579/289,913 
22 12,041/102,959  68,121/448,952  56,080/345,993 
21 17,885/120,844  65,971/514,923  48,086/394,079
20 31,619/152,463 59,496/574,419 27,877/421,956
19 19,315/171,778 59,730/634,149 40,415/462,371
18 33,137/204,915 90,029/724,178 56,892/519,263
17 35,189/240,104 53,758/777,936 18,569/537,832
16 30,222/270,326 41,722/819,658 11,500/549,332
15 28,359/298,685 54,794/874,452 26,435/575,767
14 25,899/324,584 44,319/918,771 18,420/594,187
13 25,038/349,622 83,843/1,002,614 58,805/652,992
12 34,437/384,059 68,308/1,070,922 33,871/686,863
11 55,319/439,378 67,170/1,138,092 11,851/698,714
10 38,051/477,429 53,209/1,191,301 15,158/713,872
9 50,884/528,313 25,509/1,220,810 -25,375/692,497
8 118,699/647,012 34,849/1,255,659 -83,850/608,607
7 126,340/773,352
6 139,346/912,698
5 158,668/1,071,366
4 183,640/1,255,006
3 203,984/1,458,990
2 232,354/1,691,344
1  300,735/1,992,079    


BHR-3 on 01 August 2011

cod series still impressive

COD MW3 vs past COD same timeframe

mw3 360 662k
mw3 PS3 284k

BO 256k
BO 150k



                                                             

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dsage01 on 01 August 2011
BHR-3 said:
cod series still impressive

COD MW3 vs past COD same timeframe

mw3 360 662k
mw3 PS3 284k

BO 256k
BO 150k

But then again look at Black Ops's giant jump from it's preorders on both consoles. Which you yourself stated before.



yo_john117 on 01 August 2011
dsage01 said:
Where can you find more BS preorder numbers

Show me ONE place that has better pre-order charts then Vgchartz for FREE. Nobody is forcing you to look at these charts.

In the end Vgcharts pre-order charts are mostly accurate sure there may be some discrepencies but as a whole they give a good idea at what a game might do for FW sales.

Your opinion is NOT more accurate then Vghcartz numbers.



BHR-3 on 01 August 2011
Seece said:
BHR-3 said:

uncharted 2 190k PO - 420k week 1 which went on to do over 2M before the year ended (despite the forums beliefs)

mag 250k PO (and was climbing even after the demo released)- 200k week 1

mw2 ps3 750k PO -1.7M week 1

cod bo again 860k PO - 2.35M week 1 which went on to outdo Halo reachs global week 1 after at least 2 adjustments  (same as above)

 

i believe this could be true "Maybe people who shop at the stores we track have different buying habits to yourself or to what you believe the population to have"

Uncharted 2 - Really not surprised this doesn't kill it in pre orders, it's a typical PS3 core game.

MAG - Got terrible reviews, lots of people cancelled their pre orders I imagin.

MW2 and COD BO, very casual core centrict title, BO on 360 didn't beat Reach either, and that did way above Reach.

ioi was talking about Americas first weeks sales so PS3 BO beating Reach global is completely irrelevent in this topic.

maybe not in PO but in 1st week sales in NA by a large margin aswell which wouldnt make PO a good indication of 1st week sales imo

didnt the reviews for mag like many games come out prior to are last PO week? and the demo was out prior to the reviews

the global comparisons links was to show that majority dosnt rule on these forums when it comes to sales analyzing



                                                             

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