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Rath said:

Austrian driver's religious headgear strains credulity

Having received his driving licence, Niko Alm now wants to get pastafarianism officially recognised

An Austrian atheist has won the right to be shown on his driving-licence photo wearing a pasta strainer as "religious headgear".

Niko Alm first applied for the licence three years ago after reading that headgear was allowed in official pictures only for confessional reasons.

Mr Alm said the sieve was a requirement of his religion, pastafarianism.

Later a police spokesman explained that the licence was issued because Mr Alm's face was fully visible in the photo.

"The photo was not approved on religious grounds. The only criterion for photos in driving licence applications is that the whole face must be visible," said Manfred Reinthaler, a police spokesman in Vienna.

He was speaking on Wednesday, after Austrian media had first reported Mr Alm's reason for wearing the pasta strainer.

After receiving his application the Austrian authorities had required him to obtain a doctor's certificate that he was "psychologically fit" to drive.

According to Mr Reinthaler, "the licence has been ready since October 2009 - it was not collected, that's all there is to it".

The idea came into Mr Alm's noodle three years ago as a way of making a serious, if ironic, point.

A self-confessed atheist, Mr Alm says he belongs to the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, a light-hearted, US-based faith whose members call themselves pastafarians.

A medical interview established the self-styled "pastafarian" was mentally fit to drive

The group's website states that "the only dogma allowed in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the rejection of dogma".

In response to pressure for American schools to teach the theory known as intelligent design, which some Christians favour as an alternative to natural selection, the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote to the Kansas School Board asking for the pastafarian version of intelligent design to be taught to schoolchildren.

Straining credulity

In the same spirit, Mr Alm's pastafarian-style application for a driving licence was a response to the Austrian recognition of confessional headgear in official photographs.

The licence took three years to come through and, according to Mr Alm, he was asked to submit to a medical interview to check on his mental fitness to drive but - straining credulity - his efforts have finally paid off.

It is the police who issue driving licences in Austria, and they have duly issued a laminated card showing Mr Alm in his unorthodox item of religious headgear.

When asked for his reaction to Mr Reinthaler's comments, Mr Alm told the broadcaster ORF: "I didn't know I was guilty of not collecting it. That doesn't alter the fact that it still took nearly a year [to be issued]".

The next step, Mr Alm told the Austrian news agency APA, is to apply to the Austrian authorities for pastafarianism to become an officially recognised faith.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14135523

Aragorn in your avatar is looking at the topic like "wtf."



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padib said:
Vetteman94 said:
Im glad this came to be. Although Im a little upset they made him take a Psych test, there should have been no reason for him to have to take that. Unless its required for all people, which it doesnt seem like it, with the way the point it out. Wearing a spaghetti strainer is no less absurd than wearing a necklace with a cross and a dead guy nailed to it.

Think about it for a second and in your right mind you'll see that you would disagree. Unless ignorance is an obstacle,  most people know who the dead guy on the cross was and what he stood for, and why they killed him. You can't say the same about pasta. Point is, I'm glad none of you are in a position to judge, and I hope none of you become lawyers anytime soon. I'm fearful of the future...

So how is my ignorance an obstacle to believing that its no less absurd to wear a spaghetti strainer on your head compared to  a dead guy nailed to a cross?  And your ignorance is not an obstacle to the real world?  Do you think your faith is the only one that should be allowed? And that its ok the law makes concessions for people of certain faiths but not others?



Player1x3 said:
What an obssesive depressed asshole

My sentiments exactly for anyone who has a faith



I think everyone should just study all the religions and pick and choose what they want to believe in. That is a better view than just hard wiring yourself for just one religion. There are many good ideas in all religions. There are also many things that people take out of context to further their own cause. Any religious extremist can be bad. When religion is taken to the extreme is when you get people killing others just because of a difference in opinion. The less dependent on following religions to the extreme then the better humanity will become.



Guys, please, lets keep the general religion bashing to a minimum. It's cool if you do or don't believe in something, but lets please keep to the subject.

This isn't a thread about saying people who worship a dead guy on a cross is the same as worshiping a spaghetti monster and please simply drop it.  You've been warned.



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Vetteman94 said:
Player1x3 said:
What an obssesive depressed asshole

My sentiments exactly for anyone who has a faith

you have no idea what you just got yourself into, he is gonna reply to you



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

MARCUSDJACKSON said:
well my religion follows the anatomy of a women but i don't think i'll be warring a Vagina on my head!


How about a placenta?



twesterm said:

Guys, please, lets keep the general religion bashing to a minimum. It's cool if you do or don't believe in something, but lets please keep to the subject.

This isn't a thread about saying people who worship a dead guy on a cross is the same as worshiping a spaghetti monster and please simply drop it.  You've been warned.

so that means everyone can come in here and bash a atheist, but nobody can defend him?

i would suggest you lock the thread if you don't like what happens here.



“It appeared that there had even been demonstrations to thank Big Brother for raising the chocolate ration to twenty grams a week. And only yesterday, he reflected, it had been announced that the ration was to be reduced to twenty grams a week. Was it possible that they could swallow that, after only twenty-four hours? Yes, they swallowed it.”

- George Orwell, ‘1984’

sethnintendo said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
well my religion follows the anatomy of a women but i don't think i'll be warring a Vagina on my head!


How about a placenta?

no way dud. i'm sure i asked for that lol.



What a knob.