phinch1 said: Mad55 said: Resident evil was rebooted? 4-5 as over the shoulder action shooters didnt seem a reboot to you?

No... thats not a reboot, lots of series go through redesigh in gameplay especially long running series. A Reboot means to completely start from scratch sometimes characters return with a freshbackground, sometimes its completely new character, plot... basic Reboot = Start from scratch.

sapphi_snake said: The worst thing they could do is go back to the (terrible) old formula. Honestly, I don't know why people hate change and innovation so much.

I Love innovation and change, but it doest mean its always right. Final Fantasy Xlll is NOT the right direction for Final Fantasy.

HappySqurriel said: The switch to better controls took a lot of tension out of the game, and the change in viewpoint made the game less atmospheric; and, as a result, it stopped being a horror game and became a third person shooter.

It wasn't the controls or the camera that turned Resident Evil into a third person shooter. The large amount of weapons, amunition and enemies did it. 

Xxain said: phinch1 said: Mad55 said: Resident evil was rebooted? 4-5 as over the shoulder action shooters didnt seem a reboot to you? No... thats not a reboot, lots of series go through redesigh in gameplay especially long running series. A Reboot means to completely start from scratch sometimes characters return with a freshbackground, sometimes its completely new character, plot... basic Reboot = Start from scratch.

"A Reboot means to completely start from scratch sometimes characters return with a freshbackground"

bought back chris redfield, completely changed his looks, completeley changed the scrapped the enemies from the origional, completely changed the players view from the origional, completley changed it to a level system with checkpoints, completely changed the way to go about the weopons system

apart from herbs, the game title characters and the fact it has some form of enemies, how is it the same as the origional? that is a complete overhaul of the game

Xxain said: sapphi_snake said: The worst thing they could do is go back to the (terrible) old formula. Honestly, I don't know why people hate change and innovation so much. I Love innovation and change, but it doest mean its always right. Final Fantasy Xlll is NOT the right direction for Final Fantasy.

RE4 is the most successful game in the series critically, and it was also very successful commercially. Obviously change was for the best in this situation. And isn't FF13 really just a step back from 12?

I think the problem with a lot of games this gen is that they forgot what made the previous versions so popular.

Final Fantasy, Grand Theft Auto, Gran Turismo and of course Resident Evil.

While sometimes change is good and sometimes needed RE is a fine example of changing too much ruins the franchise. With RE4 and more so 5 it lost its uniqueness. No longer a survival horror and more just a run and gun game. Looking at the new Resident Evil Operation Racoon City it looks to take this even further and makes it a fast frantic shooter. Which is the last nail in the coffin for me.

They need to go back to the start. The story and the style is what made Resident Evil so great. That single story has been milked for every penny. Capcom have cashed in on everything they can possibly cash in.

phinch1 said: Mad55 said: Resident evil was rebooted? 4-5 as over the shoulder action shooters didnt seem a reboot to you?

Resident evil 4 to me was still a horror game now 5 was kinda a action shooter. Though those werent really reboot's  in my opinion.

My favourite Resident Evil games are the older ones, they were very scary and I enjoyed solving puzzles. The fixed camera angles worked brilliantly as well.

As much as I loved the older Resident Evil's, I loved Resident Evil 4 too. It was a lot more fast paced and although it wasn't as scary as the originals, it had its moments. Boss fights were fun as hell and they nailed the difficulty level.

I would like another games with fixed camera angles, even if that does seem dated, a game like Outbreak sounds like a great idea, those were fun games.

sapphi_snake said: Xxain said: sapphi_snake said: The worst thing they could do is go back to the (terrible) old formula. Honestly, I don't know why people hate change and innovation so much. I Love innovation and change, but it doest mean its always right. Final Fantasy Xlll is NOT the right direction for Final Fantasy. RE4 is the most successful game in the series critically, and it was also very successful commercially. Obviously change was for the best in this situation. And isn't FF13 really just a step back from 12?

in what way was it more successful?

phinch1 said: Xxain said: phinch1 said: Mad55 said: Resident evil was rebooted? 4-5 as over the shoulder action shooters didnt seem a reboot to you? No... thats not a reboot, lots of series go through redesigh in gameplay especially long running series. A Reboot means to completely start from scratch sometimes characters return with a freshbackground, sometimes its completely new character, plot... basic Reboot = Start from scratch. "A Reboot means to completely start from scratch sometimes characters return with a freshbackground" bought back chris redfield, completely changed his looks, completeley changed the scrapped the enemies from the origional, completely changed the players view from the origional, completley changed it to a level system with checkpoints, completely changed the way to go about the weopons system apart from herbs, the game title characters and the fact it has some form of enemies, how is it the same as the origional? that is a complete overhaul of the game

Man That happens ALL the time. Lots of Game Design Elements/art change over time to reflect current Gen Standards. Metroid Prime is substantially different than Classic series but its not Reboot. RE4-5 Still foloows the Same Story, Sames Characters, Same settings, Same timeframe, but redesigned to reflect more modern games. Reboot Means to Restart ... Nothing has been restarted in RE. Look at how many game redesigns METAL GEAR went through... is it a Reboot?