Ugh ... this is kind of insulting to PS360, as if to say they soley have the core based on HD graphics.

Oh no, they do, just to taunt fans *cough* Halo Wars 2

Iwata really has lost it if he thinks HD has any capability to improve games. It's a marginally sharper picture -not even 3x at 1080p- and nothing more. Nothing that matters. All it really does is inflate the cost to produce games beyond all reason, as evidenced by the long list of third parties who tried to go HD-exclusive this gen and then died when they couldn't break even at sales rates that, only a generation before (or on the Wii) would have netted handsome profits. And for what? Pretty pictures.

As for the hardcore, Nintendo is wasting its time going after them. They're never coming back, no matter what Nintendo does. They still haven't forgiven Nintendo for the SNES version of the original Mortal Kombat. Leave them to their basements.

No no no, it wasn't HD holding back the Wii, or the hardly core (since the Wii sold more therefor they are not the driving force for the market) it was Nintendo who was reluctant to support the system with software and expected third party's to get common sense and support the market leader (HA!)

Wii ware was under used, instead of lifting the download limit and actually releasing games people want to play, you me and the cubes? Why not a new, ice climbers, balloon battle, or duck hunt? It worked for excite bike. Instead of throwing the money down to make Wii music why don't you use that to make a ton of smaller games?

Poor virtual console, you could of housed games that people will pay up to HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS to buy off Ebay yet Nintendo couldn't even bother releasing Earthbound.

Where was all the games to support motion plus? Or even the balance board? No 1080 snowboarding for an attachment that sold as much as the Gamecube? NOTHING! They release one game for the gun attachment as well!

Nintendo also being reluctant to release games across all regions also doesn't help either.

The software they released was at times was CANCER. Animal crossing was a DS port! Wii music had a worst music editor/game than Mario Paint on the SNES! Metroid Other M....oh god don't get me started...Making more 3D Mario games when 2D Mario games DESTROYED it in sales and profit!

While all this was happening, they were BANKROLLING. They HAD THE MONEY AND RESOURCES TO FIX THIS!
They didn't expand, they didn't push the system or keep releasing software to keep interest.

Why did the Wii GET ONE ZELDA? THE GAMECUBE GOT TWO! There is no good reason why this should of happened!

So where the hell were they going to get the funds AFTER they made their stuff for the HDs and PCs??? Maybe they didnt refuse, maybe some of them couldnt and Nintendo didnt help by making a system that didnt gel with what the 3rd parties were making, They know this which is why they are doing what they are doing with the Wii U now.And i have no idea how the hell players show off. If these companies didnt "show off" how the hell would they get people excited to bu their crap???

When is this "Why Wii sux!" and the "Why Wii ROX!" ever going to end? , its the same argument for 5 years? , whats funny is that the same people who argued before are arguing now.

that is true as well.

most nintendo fans think that only because a game is in HD that people play it, no sir, its actually a good "Game"  , which is why i'm glad nintendo finally made an HD console so we don't get these "people only like it because it has good graphics" bullshit.

So you belive that it was multi company conspiracy that kept Wii from getting games? :)

LOL noone wanted to make games for it because they required rebuilding code from zero instead of cheap porting.

SOme fans would dare not admit to this, becaue if they did they would have to acknowledge that NINTENDO actually screwed themselves by making such wacky hardware. And their love for the company would never allow them to state they actually made a mistake, which ironically is the same mistake made with N64 and why that console got MUCH less support than PS1

I haven't said conspiracy, though in some cases deliberate self-sabotage was definitely what was going on, but rather developers and publishers who just refused to adapt their systems to work with Wii for reasons like you stated, and while the porting wasn't cheap, it was ultimately a one-time investment as far as franchises were concerned (like how after Treyarch managed to get the Modern Warfare engine up on Wii, then Call of Duties were easy to make for the platform)

Conspiracy was the case in a few instances (EA with Dead Space Extraction and NBA Jam comes to mind), but obstinance is more than that