Lostplanet22 said:
GhaudePhaede010 said:
1) You are now moving the goal posts and speculating on information you do not really know about. It is hypocrisy when you make the statement, "...this will get me with Nintendo..." and then when that happens you decide on a new reason not to want Nintendo. Those people should be called out, and have been by this topic. Anyone that said, "I will get a Nintendo console when there is a Zelda HD (and there were plenty)" will now have Zelda HD but nah, they still do not want the console. All we want is for those people to own up, take responsibility, and explain what their real problem is because it is clearly not what they said it is.
2) This issue is seriously deeper than a rise in Sony and/or Microsoft sales, it is just as much about Nintendo's current drop in sales. Nintendo had a drop off in sales following the release of two add-ons that made the more powerful consoles very similar, in fucntionality to Wii. It is reasonable to conclude that the people that were going to buy Wii decided to buy a more powerful console, that offers the same (or better depending on who you ask) experiences as Wii, for a reasonable price. Even if Sony and Microsoft sales did not rise (which I think that have), Nintendo's did fall (I believe both happened) and that is because people are changing their mind on which console to buy. Price cuts did not have affects that lasted that long... my point is, the people that are now purchasing XBOX 360 and PS3 are the people the Wii haters rally against. I see a lot of women (soccer moms) interested in Kinect (for example) and the coverage of both products was similar to the coverage given to Wii in the first couple years. Nintendo did not go HD with Wii, Sony and Microsoft went motion controls (which is so telling of so many things) to keep up. Which is why no matter which console you buy into, Nintendo won this generation hands down.
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1) Meh in all thos years I hardly saw someone posting he didn't wanted a Wii because their would be no Zelda HD...hardly any third party support, don't like Nintendo games, an horrible online experience, don't like to play motion controls that were like the most common reasons stated by users vgchartz why they don't want a Wii or didn't like it.
2) The Wii's sales are already in decline for years;.Sony especially is just selling more because they are releasing a lot of games combined with a lot of multiplatform titles why the Wii had hardly any games..PS3 is not outselling the Wii in Japan because the popularity of the move games;..Ps3 was not outselling the Wii thx to move games...At this point we may be happy if an move games can sell 5k a week...And the gap was way bigger than 5k..
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1) I expected you to say this and that is why this topic, is clearly not intended for you. So there is no need for you to take it to heart or honestly even be here. The call out made here is for the supporters that have heard this bs and had to put up with it, and the people that make those bs statements and then move the goal post because they never expected Nintendo to do what they claim they wanted Nintendo to do. I said I understand there are going to be people out there that are haters or simply do not agree with Nintendo, but there are also people like those being discussed in this topic. They can run and hide, but believe me, we remember that these things were said.
2) First sentence is not important to this conversation. Second statement is simply unfounded; at least I have the release of Move AND Kinect as the timeframe that Sony and Microsoft started outselling Nintendo. You say it was about games, but games were not putting Sony or Microsoft on top initially and Wii has had the same problem with games ALL GENERATION LONG (allegedly). I am not talking about Move games or games in general (except that you baited me into that one comment in my previous sentence but my bad), because that does not impact what I have said at all.
Lastly, it was not nice of you to say I was failing. The newfound success of thee HD consoles and/or thee underperformance of Wii can be attributed to, at this point, the fact that thee HD consoles can do everything Nintendo can do, but with better graphics and at a comparable price. Sony and Microsoft have successfully cut into Nintendo's, "blue ocean" market. It is really that simple. And that means all the casuals are starting to talk with their dollar but the Sony and Microsoft fans neglect this.