yeah i think its a safe bet that sony will be losing a little on each psp2 sold (probably around $10-$25). but not that insane $250+ like on the ps3.

Preordered!

With the 3G model only $50 more, I'm tempted to get the 3G model. I'm not that keen on having two 3G data plans but hey what if I change my mind and then I'm stuck with Wi-Fi only when I could have just paid $50 extra for 3G functionality too? lol.

Right now I'm much more interested in PS Vita than the 3DS. At least on the hardware end anyway. I'm not pleased with the 3DS's software direction. I'd like to learn more about what the Japanese developers are up to with the Vita (including seeing what jrpgs go on there). I have a feeling that Vita will win Japan. The third-party Japanese developers will back this thing just like they are backing the PSP right now. The west will go to iOS/Android. Nintendo is already getting undercut by smart devices and I don't think we are far off from smart devices becoming the dominant platform for portable gaming. I just played a jrpg on my smartphone today on the go for like almost 2 hours (so much for all the cliched "smartphone games can only occupy you for 15-30 minutes before you get bored" ignorant talk. Cell phone games have evolved a lot lately and there are plenty of gamers that will just ignore that and spout "it haz no buttonz" or "your fingers cover 1/3 of teh screen"). Didn't have a bag on me to bring a dedicated game handheld and I always carry my cell with me so it's convenient to be able to play something like that on my cell. If Japan embraced smartphone gaming in the way that the west did, I probably wouldn't even bother with buying anymore dedicated game handhelds. But because Japan keeps dedicated game handhelds afloat and Japanese developers make good shit, I'm keeping an eye on the Vita and 3DS (and I have a better impression thus far of Vita).

Ah, Amazon pre-orders are finally up. Thx for the unintentional heads up!

3G SKU pre-ordered.

Depending on what sort of deal SCE worked out with AT&T for exclusive carrier rights, they may actually be breaking even or even coming out slightly ahead on the 3G models. 

If AT&T isn't giving SCE any sort of incentive as is the norm with any data service device, there's no reason why they would stay tethered to just AT&T, arguably the least popular of 3G service providers. I should know; as an iPhone user I'm an AT&T customer. 

But until we get the BOM estimates from iSuppli, what they're making or losing on each unit is anyone's *educated* guess. 

SaviorX said: Carl2291 said: Savior... Im guessing they will use LBP as the main force to push it. Its a big enough name for a launch and it shows the systems unique capabilities quite well... Cant do much worse than the 3DS launch games LBP? Look at what happened to it on the PSP the first time. 22 LittleBigPlanet (PSP) Sony Computer Entertainment, Platform 0.47 0.01 1.14 1.63 It was not even part of the Top 20 Best-selling PSP games this generation. On the Playstation 3, LBP1 sold about 4.5 million with LOTS of bundling and promotion, while LBP2 has been out around 4 months and managed 1.3m. It will struggle to reach 2.5 million especially without bundling. I would not bank on this series being what sells the Vita.

Gotta agree with Savior with this and the fact that the PSP Vita lacks a huge system seller as of now. Munster Hunter can be in Japan but what game in the west is one to think about.

You know guys now that I think of it they should of named it Vida....Spanish for life and sounds more pleasant than having the 't' don't you all agree?

This will be my first handheld since the Sega Gamegear.

Without details on the specifics of 3G service plans, this is all just educated guesswork, but if plans are anything like the 3G service plans for the iPad, expect to pay about $20 a month for 3G data access without any sort of contract or plan.

At that price, it's not much of an issue to simply pay for activation on the months you know you'll actually be using the service. 

For an extra $50, most should know whether they're in the market for 3G connectivity and yes; better to have and use only when needed than save $50 and lose that option. 

The other thing to keep in mind (again, without any specific details) is that SCE is bringing their games to Android, making the decision a bit harder for current Android users. Of course that says nothing about which games will actually be ported, pricing, etc. to say absolutely nothing about the lack of a basic user interface (ie. buttons and analog sticks in addition to touch screens) on all smart phones. 

As a 3DS owner, it's going to simply boil down to the games. I don't have sky high expectations for the video service, internet connectivity and the bevy of other features that have yet to be implemented in the platform. It is what it is as a gaming platform.

This actually bodes well for Sony...it shows they've learned their lesson when it comes to pricing

Hopefully this is more of an issue of whether they learned their lesson when it comes to initial production costs, R&D costs and OEM parts sourcing.

Because if they were actually losing $100 or more on each unit sold, they haven't learned as much as they should have from the PS3. 

On the other hand, if they're able to offer what the PSV does with a BOM of about $200, then even the critics would have to say, "well played SCE."