Serbia's there too. Unless we're stating that modern actions can void historical claims, which would also be a point against Israel, given their use of internationally illegal weapons in suppressing the people of Gaza

I had to look this up for the revolt you mentioned, and some roman consul said that the casualties were pretty steep, even for our times.

You mean, AFTER their claim was taken away by the UN, and AFTER Israel received material support from Europe?

Yes. Is it any sillier than saying the Jews lost their legitimate claim to the land after the fucking Roman Empire rolled them and put over half a million of them to the sword? That wasn't exactly "fair", either.

So, did the UN, or to be more specific England, roll in and decide to live there? Israel didn't do shit they were just handed the right back in the 40s.

Edit: Forgot to mention that the Romans' victory didn't hinge on outside help either.

Which the Arabs disagreed with, to be sure, and they appealed the UN's decision to recognize a Jewish state by launching an invasion. Their objection, of course, was overruled when Israel pwned them hilariously.

I'll just put my edit in here.

I don't recall the Roman Empire's success and victory in rolling over the jewish revolt hanging on extrenal help. Correct me if I am wrong.

The onyl reason Israel is where it is is because of England. THe only reason the jews weren't rolled over again, is because of extrenal help again. None of this is even remotely close to the Roman Empire who just rolled in by themselves, and using their own resources put down the revolt.

I disagree that's the only reason that Israel is where it is, as a lot of people have had ideas about relocating it or erasing it altogether but have so far been thwarted. But leaving that aside: if the British conquered it fair and square with their own resources, they can give it to whomever they like, can't they?

All subsequent victories were only based on the fact Israel withstood the initial one. Had it not there wouldn't even be an Israel for it to defend itself.

Also I disagree with the statement of the British. Either occupy it themselves or leave it to the people who have been there for a while, in this case the modern Palestenians (who are genetically similar to the Jews in the first place, meaning they are the ones who just stuck around and didn't leave due to not tolerating changing of their beleifs in fairy tales).

That alst claim (take it or leave it to the local) is proven many times over all over in Africa as well. Current borders are what Europeans basically left behind, not what the actual regoins of given tribes/groups was. WHich ended up pairing anemies in the same country in several places which leads to all the senseless infighting that is occuring.

That sounds very... arbitrary. The world has never worked that way, and it never shall.