Obama calls for Israel to restore 1967 boundaries

[vlad321]

badgenome said:

vlad321 said:

I'll just put my edit in here.

I don't recall the Roman Empire's success and victory in rolling over the jewish revolt hanging on extrenal help. Correct me if I am wrong.

The onyl reason Israel is where it is is because of England. THe only reason the jews weren't rolled over again, is because of extrenal help again. None of this is even remotely close to the Roman Empire who just rolled in by themselves, and using their own resources put down the revolt.

I disagree that's the only reason that Israel is where it is, as a lot of people have had ideas about relocating it or erasing it altogether but have so far been thwarted. But leaving that aside: if the British conquered it fair and square with their own resources, they can give it to whomever they like, can't they?

All subsequent victories were only based on the fact Israel withstood the initial one. Had it not there wouldn't even be an Israel for it to defend itself.

Also I disagree with the statement of the British. Either occupy it themselves or leave it to the people who have been there for a while, in this case the modern Palestenians (who are genetically similar to the Jews in the first place, meaning they are the ones who just stuck around and didn't leave due to not tolerating changing of their beleifs in fairy tales).

That alst claim (take it or leave it to the local) is proven many times over all over in Africa as well. Current borders are what Europeans basically left behind, not what the actual regoins of given tribes/groups was. WHich ended up pairing anemies in the same country in several places which leads to all the senseless infighting that is occuring.