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being gay a choice vs born that way.

It's a lifestyle choice 120 25.53%
 
Your born that way 250 53.19%
 
no opinion 36 7.66%
 
other---for anything I missed 62 13.19%
 
Total:468
osamanobama on 09 June 2011
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means



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osamanobama on 09 June 2011
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


double post



osamanobama on 09 June 2011
Chrizum said:
DélioPT said:
Chrizum said:
 

It seems you don't understand. Let me explain myself in simple terms:

1) Yes, we christians should help people not go to hell and that which we can do to make other follow His path
2) Helping means: talking to them, discussing with people, keeping the conversation going
3) It does NOT mean denying people who we think will go to hell if they don't change their ways rights good christians DO have. That's acting upon judgement, which is what only God can do, not men
4) This means we as christians should talk to homosexual men, trying to explain what they are doing and how they can help themselves by following Jezus
5) And NOT try to stop them from doing what they do. That is actively judging which is what only God can do
6) I'm not doing the same thing I'm accusing you of, because this is a conversation, a discussion, which I encourage. I will never actively try to stop you from what you are doing.

In short: men do not have the power to uphold any law denying other people rights, because that is walking in the shoes of God. We cannot judge about people, only God can.

Agreed or not?

No.

I don`t think you realized that not doing anything it`s also doing something. Talking and helping is one way, but so is preventing them from actively sinning.
Still, you do not realize there`s a difference between saying one`s actions or this way or the other and then making judgments on the person themselves. When someone goes silent on a pole - when you know it`s against God what is trying to be passed - you are actively putting God aside to let sin have space in someone`s lives. That`s accepting sin to be. If you are a christian you know this part "they will be done on earth as it is in heaven".

I always try not to judge people for what they do, but if i have a say in some shape or form, i will and have to, make God prevail.

Then I can't help you. You are a disgrace to humanity and the christian believe and I sincerely hope but doubt you will change your ways sooner rather than later.

what you are doing now, is aexactly what you accuse him of. you are "judging" and you are being a disgrace



Seece on 09 June 2011
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means

I know the literal term thanks, but I like to bundle the haters all into one



 

sapphi_snake on 09 June 2011
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means

Yes, I hope you're taking notes.



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MrBubbles on 09 June 2011
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
DélioPT said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
DélioPT said:
TruckOSaurus said:
This religion talk is leading nowhere so I'll state the situation another way.

What do you think is better?

Me living with my boyfriend, making each other happy, giving both of us a nice disposition in day to day life

OR

Me marrying a woman, forcing myself to have sex with her (the least the better), making me being miserable because I get no pleasure whatsoever in the relationship, being unfair to her because her husband doesn't have any desire for her, making her bitter and frustrated?

To be honest, neither.
The only thing i could appeal to or advice is abstinence. I hope why you understand why i am saying this, even if you don`t agree.

I don't know why I feel like people are giving you a harder time than you deserve..  or probably you deserve it but anyway.... since you are being somehow nice compared to the people I know, I am asking you nicely to reconsider.

Abstinence is your answer for the gay population, really?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as they are respectful and tolerant, although some people just aren`t. It`s life; nothing new! :)


Yes it`s my answer. I already know that a lot won`t agree, but it`s my point of view. Also, a point of view that i set for myself and the things that make me sin and to others of course.


Well some point of views just don't... make sense. Like 1+1=3.. but ok.


abstinence has worked out fine for all the catholic priests, and the christians in africa, where among such communities there is no such thing as unwanted pregnancy or STIs...so why in the world do you think it would not work for homosexuals as well?



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osamanobama on 09 June 2011
Seece said:
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means

I know the literal term thanks, but I like to bundle the haters all into one

who's being hatful?

the only people here being at all agressive or hateful with their tones are people that think being gay is right



Seece on 09 June 2011
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means

I know the literal term thanks, but I like to bundle the haters all into one

who's being hatful?

the only people here being at all agressive or hateful with their tones are people that think being gay is right

With good reason, and no the ones that go out of their way to even discuss something nothing to do with them are hateful

Also need to stop obsessing over us hot gays, people do talk you know?



 

sapphi_snake on 09 June 2011
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
osamanobama said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


its also a great opportunity to find out all the people that dont know what homophobe means

I know the literal term thanks, but I like to bundle the haters all into one

who's being hatful?

the only people here being at all agressive or hateful with their tones are people that think being gay is right

You're being hateful with your words, but you just can't see that.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

oliist on 09 June 2011

I am about to lock this.
It is obviously getting more and more emotional. And it only produces hate on all sides.
If anyone insults any other member after this post, you are getting harsh warnings/bans and I'll close this thread.



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