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being gay a choice vs born that way.

It's a lifestyle choice 120 25.53%
 
Your born that way 250 53.19%
 
no opinion 36 7.66%
 
other---for anything I missed 62 13.19%
 
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Jaos on 09 June 2011
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


What's sad about this is they seem to have unlimited time and energy to repeat their bs over and over again



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DélioPT on 09 June 2011
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
DélioPT said:
TruckOSaurus said:
This religion talk is leading nowhere so I'll state the situation another way.

What do you think is better?

Me living with my boyfriend, making each other happy, giving both of us a nice disposition in day to day life

OR

Me marrying a woman, forcing myself to have sex with her (the least the better), making me being miserable because I get no pleasure whatsoever in the relationship, being unfair to her because her husband doesn't have any desire for her, making her bitter and frustrated?

To be honest, neither.
The only thing i could appeal to or advice is abstinence. I hope why you understand why i am saying this, even if you don`t agree.

I don't know why I feel like people are giving you a harder time than you deserve..  or probably you deserve it but anyway.... since you are being somehow nice compared to the people I know, I am asking you nicely to reconsider.

Abstinence is your answer for the gay population, really?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as they are respectful and tolerant, although some people just aren`t. It`s life; nothing new! :)


Yes it`s my answer. I already know that a lot won`t agree, but it`s my point of view. Also, a point of view that i set for myself and the things that make me sin and to others of course.




Jaos on 09 June 2011
DélioPT said:

Lonely? Maybe. Not every person finds a companion. Concluding that someone would hate a part of one`s self is really pushing it.


Either you don't want to see or you don't care, that high suicide rates of gays come from others discriminating us. Getting told that living your sexuality is a sin drives a lot of young gays into depression or worse killing themselves. Are you ok with that?



Seece on 09 June 2011
Jaos said:
Seece said:
I love these topics, great opportunity to get all the homophobes banned


What's sad about this is they seem to have unlimited time and energy to repeat their bs over and over again


Yeah, also funny why they would bother in the first place, yet not spend an ounce of that energy on other things they find sinful.

Most are in the closet homosexuals, I feel sorry for the wives, they all know



 

DélioPT on 09 June 2011
Jaos said:
DélioPT said:

Lonely? Maybe. Not every person finds a companion. Concluding that someone would hate a part of one`s self is really pushing it.


Either you don't want to see or you don't care, that high suicide rates of gays come from others discriminating us. Getting told that living your sexuality is a sin drives a lot of young gays into depression or worse killing themselves. Are you ok with that?

I was just speaking about sapphi_snake`s reasoning.
I will explain it this way: calling something a sin is one thing, but no one here was passing judgment on gay people. It`s when people go after gay people that is wrong. I didn`t do that nor will ever will. Isn`t that what hurts more?




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sapphi_snake on 09 June 2011
DélioPT said:
Jaos said:
DélioPT said:

Lonely? Maybe. Not every person finds a companion. Concluding that someone would hate a part of one`s self is really pushing it.


Either you don't want to see or you don't care, that high suicide rates of gays come from others discriminating us. Getting told that living your sexuality is a sin drives a lot of young gays into depression or worse killing themselves. Are you ok with that?

I was just speaking about sapphi_snake`s reasoning.
I will explain it this way: calling something a sin is one thing, but no one here was passing judgment on gay people. It`s when people go after gay people that is wrong. I didn`t do that nor will ever will. Isn`t that what hurts more?


You already admitted that you'd support any law that hurts gays. How is that not going after them? Your duplicity is outrageous!!!



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TruckOSaurus on 09 June 2011
DélioPT said:
sapphi_snake said:
DélioPT said:

To be honest, neither.
The only thing i could appeal to or advice is abstinence. I hope why you understand why i am saying this, even if you don`t agree.

Yes, I'm sure that leading a lonely miserable life, repressing and hating a natural part of himself because some consider it a flaw (an imaginary one at that) is the best way to go.

Lonely? Maybe. Not every person finds a companion. Concluding that someone would hate a part of one`s self is really pushing it.

That's not pushing anything, that's pretty much a given. If I were to follow your misguided advice and stay celibate for the rest of my life because I'm attracted to guys, of course I would hate that part of myself that has doomed me to a life of loneliness.



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sad.man.loves.vgc on 09 June 2011
DélioPT said:
sapphi_snake said:
DélioPT said:

To be honest, neither.
The only thing i could appeal to or advice is abstinence. I hope why you understand why i am saying this, even if you don`t agree.

Yes, I'm sure that leading a lonely miserable life, repressing and hating a natural part of himself because some consider it a flaw (an imaginary one at that) is the best way to go.

Lonely? Maybe. Not every person finds a companion. Concluding that someone would hate a part of one`s self is really pushing it.


I guess you really haven't met religious self loathing gays



sad.man.loves.vgc on 09 June 2011
DélioPT said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
DélioPT said:
TruckOSaurus said:
This religion talk is leading nowhere so I'll state the situation another way.

What do you think is better?

Me living with my boyfriend, making each other happy, giving both of us a nice disposition in day to day life

OR

Me marrying a woman, forcing myself to have sex with her (the least the better), making me being miserable because I get no pleasure whatsoever in the relationship, being unfair to her because her husband doesn't have any desire for her, making her bitter and frustrated?

To be honest, neither.
The only thing i could appeal to or advice is abstinence. I hope why you understand why i am saying this, even if you don`t agree.

I don't know why I feel like people are giving you a harder time than you deserve..  or probably you deserve it but anyway.... since you are being somehow nice compared to the people I know, I am asking you nicely to reconsider.

Abstinence is your answer for the gay population, really?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion as long as they are respectful and tolerant, although some people just aren`t. It`s life; nothing new! :)


Yes it`s my answer. I already know that a lot won`t agree, but it`s my point of view. Also, a point of view that i set for myself and the things that make me sin and to others of course.


Well some point of views just don't... make sense. Like 1+1=3.. but ok.



Hydralisk on 09 June 2011

I don't know why people use religion to spread their "Homosexuality is wrong" views around. Ever care to think that not everyone believes in your concepts of heaven and hell? Or that a many people don't practice your religion or care for it at all? Your personal views should have no effect on others' lives.