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osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
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Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

 


WOW REALLY!?!? You ignore all my comments, put words into my mouth, and even when I disprove you (Forza 4 is a 5 million selling franchise, InFamous is sub 2 million) you never apoligize for being wrong and critical of me.

Instead you come back, and instult me. Then you claim I have done the same to you. How exactly did I twist your words around, where did I say or imply you saying something you didn't say? WOW... just wow.

This thread was aout PS3 users switching to 360. S.T.A.G.E. made the comment that 360 has nothing comming for it, and there is no reason to switch. I proved to him there was (although switching consolesis costly and stupid overall). You then intervened and included you opinion, and began harassing me on this point, then twisted my words around (again, Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, Resistance 2 arely sold over 2 million, and InFamous is sub 2 million).

I'm done debating with you unless you recognize your mistake, at least for that whole Forza 4/InFamous sales comment you blew out of proportion, which I correctly claimed. You should apoligize to people when you do that instead of insult them further.

bolded: really you proved that. can you show me proof.

re-read please. then you will see it, it would take me wayyy (hint thats one of them) to long to point all of them out.

i didnt include opinion at all, that was only you. i inputted no opinion.

the funny thing is, is you think your right.

"Forza 4 are the only 5 million plus blockbuster titles on the 360 lineup," 

" InFamous 1 is sub 2 million, Resistance 2 barely crosses 2 million"

heres another funny one. you try talking up the xbox games, going as far as bringing in sales (as if that is what determines quality). you say that Forza is a 5 million seller, when its at 4.8 (and its probably the most bundled game on xbox, excluding kinect advantures). then you try to play down the ps3 games by saying the inFAMOUS seriers isnt big, its sub 2 million. lol, its at 1.95 (and well over 2 million with psn sales). So some reason a game cant get rounded up .05 but Forza (a racing game whixh will stop selling after the sequal) gets rounded up by .2, and if we look at the previous entries, its wayyy less. so make up you mind, be consitant. and some reason Resistance is "barely 2 million" even though its .15 over. i get it, we round up the xbox games, and round down the ps3 games. i must of forgot rounding rules in math class.

Michael: Then this was bad wording on my part, but still not that inaccurate. When refering to Forza 4 (not 3) sales, I was refering to lifetime franchise sales. I believe I also included Uncharted 2 and 3 in this list, so it's not biased. When refering to InFamous 1 sales, I was referring to current sales.

Both arguements were in different paragraphs, what more do you want me to do to separate my points?

Please re-read my posts if you have to before complaining. Had I said Forza 3 was a 5 million selling franchise, your point would be valid, but I was refering to lifetime sales of Forza 4.

Michael: This is copy an paste from our prior dialogue. You accused me of claiming Forza 3 as a 5 million unit franchise, and then claiming InFamous as a sub 2 million franchise. I said Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, and that InFamous 1 currently sits below 2 million sales. You then made a big deal about this, and tried to devalidate my points by making me look like a fool.

I don't see any contradictions on my part. If you can't even point them out, then you're just making bs.

Also I don't say wayyy...

As for opinion, I only mentioned that when compiling the number of 90% Plus and 80% Plus exclusives. On Gamerscore PS3 had noticably more about 80%, but on Metacritic it was the oposite. Above 90% both consoles have the same. IMO 7 compared to 6 is not a big deal, not enough to say one console has more 9/10 games. Remember everyone has preferences, but if that 1 game is a big deal for you, think what you like.



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Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

 


WOW REALLY!?!? You ignore all my comments, put words into my mouth, and even when I disprove you (Forza 4 is a 5 million selling franchise, InFamous is sub 2 million) you never apoligize for being wrong and critical of me.

Instead you come back, and instult me. Then you claim I have done the same to you. How exactly did I twist your words around, where did I say or imply you saying something you didn't say? WOW... just wow.

This thread was aout PS3 users switching to 360. S.T.A.G.E. made the comment that 360 has nothing comming for it, and there is no reason to switch. I proved to him there was (although switching consolesis costly and stupid overall). You then intervened and included you opinion, and began harassing me on this point, then twisted my words around (again, Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, Resistance 2 arely sold over 2 million, and InFamous is sub 2 million).

I'm done debating with you unless you recognize your mistake, at least for that whole Forza 4/InFamous sales comment you blew out of proportion, which I correctly claimed. You should apoligize to people when you do that instead of insult them further.

bolded: really you proved that. can you show me proof.

re-read please. then you will see it, it would take me wayyy (hint thats one of them) to long to point all of them out.

i didnt include opinion at all, that was only you. i inputted no opinion.

the funny thing is, is you think your right.

"Forza 4 are the only 5 million plus blockbuster titles on the 360 lineup," 

" InFamous 1 is sub 2 million, Resistance 2 barely crosses 2 million"

heres another funny one. you try talking up the xbox games, going as far as bringing in sales (as if that is what determines quality). you say that Forza is a 5 million seller, when its at 4.8 (and its probably the most bundled game on xbox, excluding kinect advantures). then you try to play down the ps3 games by saying the inFAMOUS seriers isnt big, its sub 2 million. lol, its at 1.95 (and well over 2 million with psn sales). So some reason a game cant get rounded up .05 but Forza (a racing game whixh will stop selling after the sequal) gets rounded up by .2, and if we look at the previous entries, its wayyy less. so make up you mind, be consitant. and some reason Resistance is "barely 2 million" even though its .15 over. i get it, we round up the xbox games, and round down the ps3 games. i must of forgot rounding rules in math class.

Michael: Then this was bad wording on my part, but still not that inaccurate. When refering to Forza 4 (not 3) sales, I was refering to lifetime franchise sales. I believe I also included Uncharted 2 and 3 in this list, so it's not biased. When refering to InFamous 1 sales, I was referring to current sales.

Both arguements were in different paragraphs, what more do you want me to do to separate my points?

Please re-read my posts if you have to before complaining. Had I said Forza 3 was a 5 million selling franchise, your point would be valid, but I was refering to lifetime sales of Forza 4.

Michael: This is copy an paste from our prior dialogue. You accused me of claiming Forza 3 as a 5 million unit franchise, and then claiming InFamous as a sub 2 million franchise. I said Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, and that InFamous 1 currently sits below 2 million sales. You then made a big deal about this, and tried to devalidate my points by making me look like a fool.

I don't see any contradictions on my part. If you can't even point them out, then you're just making bs.

Also I don't say wayyy...

As for opinion, I only mentioned that when compiling the number of 90% Plus and 80% Plus exclusives. On Gamerscore PS3 had noticably more about 80%, but on Metacritic it was the oposite. Above 90% both consoles have the same. IMO 7 compared to 6 is not a big deal, not enough to say one console has more 9/10 games. Remember everyone has preferences, but if that 1 game is a big deal for you, think what you like.

i said the stuff you quoted before i apologized. so sorry about that.

same with that stuff i the other thread



osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:
Michael-5 said:
osamanobama said:

 


WOW REALLY!?!? You ignore all my comments, put words into my mouth, and even when I disprove you (Forza 4 is a 5 million selling franchise, InFamous is sub 2 million) you never apoligize for being wrong and critical of me.

Instead you come back, and instult me. Then you claim I have done the same to you. How exactly did I twist your words around, where did I say or imply you saying something you didn't say? WOW... just wow.

This thread was aout PS3 users switching to 360. S.T.A.G.E. made the comment that 360 has nothing comming for it, and there is no reason to switch. I proved to him there was (although switching consolesis costly and stupid overall). You then intervened and included you opinion, and began harassing me on this point, then twisted my words around (again, Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, Resistance 2 arely sold over 2 million, and InFamous is sub 2 million).

I'm done debating with you unless you recognize your mistake, at least for that whole Forza 4/InFamous sales comment you blew out of proportion, which I correctly claimed. You should apoligize to people when you do that instead of insult them further.

bolded: really you proved that. can you show me proof.

re-read please. then you will see it, it would take me wayyy (hint thats one of them) to long to point all of them out.

i didnt include opinion at all, that was only you. i inputted no opinion.

the funny thing is, is you think your right.

"Forza 4 are the only 5 million plus blockbuster titles on the 360 lineup," 

" InFamous 1 is sub 2 million, Resistance 2 barely crosses 2 million"

heres another funny one. you try talking up the xbox games, going as far as bringing in sales (as if that is what determines quality). you say that Forza is a 5 million seller, when its at 4.8 (and its probably the most bundled game on xbox, excluding kinect advantures). then you try to play down the ps3 games by saying the inFAMOUS seriers isnt big, its sub 2 million. lol, its at 1.95 (and well over 2 million with psn sales). So some reason a game cant get rounded up .05 but Forza (a racing game whixh will stop selling after the sequal) gets rounded up by .2, and if we look at the previous entries, its wayyy less. so make up you mind, be consitant. and some reason Resistance is "barely 2 million" even though its .15 over. i get it, we round up the xbox games, and round down the ps3 games. i must of forgot rounding rules in math class.

Michael: Then this was bad wording on my part, but still not that inaccurate. When refering to Forza 4 (not 3) sales, I was refering to lifetime franchise sales. I believe I also included Uncharted 2 and 3 in this list, so it's not biased. When refering to InFamous 1 sales, I was referring to current sales.

Both arguements were in different paragraphs, what more do you want me to do to separate my points?

Please re-read my posts if you have to before complaining. Had I said Forza 3 was a 5 million selling franchise, your point would be valid, but I was refering to lifetime sales of Forza 4.

Michael: This is copy an paste from our prior dialogue. You accused me of claiming Forza 3 as a 5 million unit franchise, and then claiming InFamous as a sub 2 million franchise. I said Forza 4 will be a 5 million selling franchise, and that InFamous 1 currently sits below 2 million sales. You then made a big deal about this, and tried to devalidate my points by making me look like a fool.

I don't see any contradictions on my part. If you can't even point them out, then you're just making bs.

Also I don't say wayyy...

As for opinion, I only mentioned that when compiling the number of 90% Plus and 80% Plus exclusives. On Gamerscore PS3 had noticably more about 80%, but on Metacritic it was the oposite. Above 90% both consoles have the same. IMO 7 compared to 6 is not a big deal, not enough to say one console has more 9/10 games. Remember everyone has preferences, but if that 1 game is a big deal for you, think what you like.

i said the stuff you quoted before i apologized. so sorry about that.

same with that stuff i the other thread

Oh hey it's cool, I just read your wall pot before this comment. Really cool of you to apologize, most people don't when they have been wrong or insulting.

I remember this incident I had with someone called 4RD_Solid_Snake I belive, where he was banned twice for a month each because he kept flipping out, an in the end he still wanted to continue, saying there was no reason for him to be banned, twice..lol

Man finally am I getting some respect on VGC, ended 4 debates on positive notes, CGI and Ethomaz are cool with me. Things are going well.



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when i say downgrade i mean graphically inferior and the games are worse kay?

 

xbox 360 = 2007-early 2009

ps3 -2009 onwards lets face it i wouldn't buy an xbox because there is no games for it and cross platform games look better on ps3 now so im good

 

i think infamous 2 restiance 3 la nior [better version] uncharted 3 and more sound better then gears and well nothing else



S.T.A.G.E. said:
reviniente said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
reviniente said:
Squilliam said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:

All I can say is that fanatics will be fanatics. Anyway would I switch from the PS3 to an Xbox 360? If I had just PS3 that would be stupid and if I had just an Xbox 360 the switch would be stupid too. Neither really offers enough USP to really justify owning a 2nd for anyone who fits within the normal distribution of console owners.


Unless a 360 only owner really, really likes Gears 3 and Forza three, it's not just a risky decision to trade in the systems and get a PS3 for the games coming out this year.

Sure if there were two games coming out on the Xbox 360 and however many games coming out on the PS3 that might be the case. Unfortunately there are a couple of dozen great multiplatform games coming too and that kinda waters down the Sony exclusive lineup given most people would be hard pressed to buy more than 2-3 games in a year.

This. Not only that, but few exclusives make X360 owners buy more multi-platform games. Good for third-parties, good for XBLA. It's all good.


He was making excuses for the 360's lack of exclusives. I am completely sure that if the 360 had more exclusives than the PS3 he'd note it. If a consumer values a multiplatform over an exclusive they will buy it and vice versa. We already know that the most valuable game across consoles is multiplatform, but AAA exclusives are highly popular with consumers and give consoles identity. Those is obviously why the hot AAA exclusives are selling over 2 million copies and up regardless of console. The PS3 just has more of them and thats why they are pulling closer in sales to the 360 every year.

Yeah, exclusives pull in new users and that's good for SON¥, but third-parties are what insure a system's health and longevity and the X360 is efficiently working that angle. For the moment, that is.


The 360 is efficiently working the FPS multiplat angle (which helps with titles like Brink and MW), but other than that they both are equal with multiplats. It still comes down to exclusives when people realize that point.

As far as I know (I might be wrong, though. It happens sometimes) the only PS3 version of a multi-platform released this current year that's actually beating the X360 version is MK. Every other is a win for my camp. Third-parties know they can arguably make more money on the X360 that the PS3. In the Americas at least.



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reviniente said:
As far as I know (I might be wrong, though. It happens sometimes) the only PS3 version of a multi-platform released this current year that's actually beating the X360 version is MK. Every other is a win for my camp. Third-parties know they can arguably make more money on the X360 that the PS3. In the Americas at least.

Yet 3rd party support is increasing on ps3 and decreasing on 360 and everytime I see profits from 3rd parties they make more on ps3 



reviniente said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
reviniente said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
reviniente said:
Squilliam said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Squilliam said:

All I can say is that fanatics will be fanatics. Anyway would I switch from the PS3 to an Xbox 360? If I had just PS3 that would be stupid and if I had just an Xbox 360 the switch would be stupid too. Neither really offers enough USP to really justify owning a 2nd for anyone who fits within the normal distribution of console owners.


Unless a 360 only owner really, really likes Gears 3 and Forza three, it's not just a risky decision to trade in the systems and get a PS3 for the games coming out this year.

Sure if there were two games coming out on the Xbox 360 and however many games coming out on the PS3 that might be the case. Unfortunately there are a couple of dozen great multiplatform games coming too and that kinda waters down the Sony exclusive lineup given most people would be hard pressed to buy more than 2-3 games in a year.

This. Not only that, but few exclusives make X360 owners buy more multi-platform games. Good for third-parties, good for XBLA. It's all good.


He was making excuses for the 360's lack of exclusives. I am completely sure that if the 360 had more exclusives than the PS3 he'd note it. If a consumer values a multiplatform over an exclusive they will buy it and vice versa. We already know that the most valuable game across consoles is multiplatform, but AAA exclusives are highly popular with consumers and give consoles identity. Those is obviously why the hot AAA exclusives are selling over 2 million copies and up regardless of console. The PS3 just has more of them and thats why they are pulling closer in sales to the 360 every year.

Yeah, exclusives pull in new users and that's good for SON¥, but third-parties are what insure a system's health and longevity and the X360 is efficiently working that angle. For the moment, that is.


The 360 is efficiently working the FPS multiplat angle (which helps with titles like Brink and MW), but other than that they both are equal with multiplats. It still comes down to exclusives when people realize that point.

As far as I know (I might be wrong, though. It happens sometimes) the only PS3 version of a multi-platform released this current year that's actually beating the X360 version is MK. Every other is a win for my camp. Third-parties know they can arguably make more money on the X360 that the PS3. In the Americas at least.


You're right about third parties having a higher chance of making more on the 360, but it matters not when both consoles still have the same games. The only thing that truly separates them to the consumer in value are the exclusives, which is why the PS3 is pulling closer and closer to the 360 and the gap is closing at an alarming rate. Third parties are showing more support for the PS3 everyday. Microsoft cannot depend on third party forever. Sony learned this lesson and became first party efficient.



well lads starhawk was just announced and joins the list of exclusive im not dumb enought to miss out on just cause of a stupid PSN downtime that will be back anyways so yah no ps3 swaping to 360 for me thx.



XxXProphecyXxX said:

well lads starhawk was just announced and joins the list of exclusive im not dumb enought to miss out on just cause of a stupid PSN downtime that will be back anyways so yah no ps3 swaping to 360 for me thx.

You are kidding yourself if you think PSN is ever coming back.



badgenome said:
XxXProphecyXxX said:

well lads starhawk was just announced and joins the list of exclusive im not dumb enought to miss out on just cause of a stupid PSN downtime that will be back anyways so yah no ps3 swaping to 360 for me thx.

You are kidding yourself if you think PSN is ever coming back.

So thats why they called it PSN...(Play singleplayer now) =O