Immortal said:
And I disagree. It seems too natural to be called immature. But that's entirely subjective. |
Natural habbits can also apper immature sometimes.
Immortal said:
And I disagree. It seems too natural to be called immature. But that's entirely subjective. |
Natural habbits can also apper immature sometimes.
Immortal said:
Going back, I'd like to ask, solely for the purpose of discussion, why exactly you value stuff that has been observed. And, I'd like to add, whose reliable observations would you trust and why those observations prove anything. As for your on-topic comment, I think everyone knows how rotten Christianity has been over the ages. But you have to see that that has dropped tremendously since (I'd presume the Renaissance when everything went secular, but I'm not sure). Also, the Christians who are offended easily are rarely the same ones who went around (or go around) killing people for their beliefs. It's completely unfair to judge one Christian by the acts of another, yet I've noticed that people seem to judge all religious people by the acts of some Christians in the past. A lot of religions have little to no blood on their hands. As for your final edit, I indeed am, but there's some practicality to it. Whilst it's certainly not ideal, like it or not, you have to respect religions more simply because there are more people to be offended. If you're in a minority like those who believe in fairy tales, you'll have to suffer somewhat. It's the same logic as only having a males and females bathroom. I bet it offends people who are classified as neither, but it's simply impractical to waste my time building a third one when so few people would use it. |
I value things that have been observed solely because if it has been observed then we have informatino about it. Otherwise we don't know jack shit and any assumptions, just like any religion, are absolutely guaranteed to be wrong. As for who to listen to, that is why we have the scientific method, one part of which states an observed result must be able to be reproduced so that others can observe it for themselves if they so wanted to.
As for the bold. I am sorry, maybe it's my godless morals, but the truth is not an insult and anyone offended by it should wisen up and stop being so self-conscious of their beliefs. If they don't like how it sounds, then they are believing in the wrong thing. It doesn't matter how many people are offended, just one or a billion, things are the way things are. As I have outlined pretty well, religions have the exact same merits as fairy tales. You think that fairy tales are funny and false, by applying whatever reason you had for that to religion any religion becomes just as funny and false.
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pizzahut451 said:
well, I cant speak for other religous books, but the New Testament (the Bible) isnt anything like that. |
Alright, do let me know why. As far as I remember the new testament has the exact same merits as King Arthur.
I would also like to remind you that I can make a much better case for dragons, than anyone can for any religious text.
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vlad321 said:
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Because New Testament is book about teachings of Christ.
pizzahut451 said:
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And King Arthur is a book about the merits of someone named Arthur. What's your point?
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Just going to intrude this once: Comparing a holy book to a normal look, isn`t that fair, is it? You may not believe but there`s a difference there. And besides that, that book is sacred to some people.
That`s all.
DélioPT said: Just going to intrude this once: Comparing a holy book to a normal look, isn`t that fair, is it? You may not believe but there`s a difference there. And besides that, that book is sacred to some people. |
So one book is special just because some people think it's special, but another book witht he exact same merits isn't special?
I once met someone who actually believed in the nordic gods, does that make the nordic mythology sacred as well? How do you define sacred? Just by people's feelings?
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vlad321 said:
So one book is special just because some people think it's special, but another book witht he exact same merits isn't special? I once met someone who actually believed in the nordic gods, does that make the nordic mythology sacred as well? How do you define sacred? Just by people's feelings? |
First of all, when someone tells that they have believe or have is sacred, not just personally but like a religion, that shows how important it is to them and that alone deserves respect.
He believed? Ok. Personally i don`t but i would still respect his belief, even if i thought it was absurd. Something sacred is something that normally is above a person and defines him or her - and with it everything that is related to it.
With religion, God and everything related to Him is sacred. The holy book is sacred for that reason alone. It`s His teachings, His view on life, etc. It`s the book, the peace of paper that it`s sacred per se, it`s what it`s written and the meaning of there being such a book.
DélioPT said:
First of all, when someone tells that they have believe or have is sacred, not just personally but like a religion, that shows how important it is to them and that alone deserves respect. With religion, God and everything related to Him is sacred. The holy book is sacred for that reason alone. It`s His teachings, His view on life, etc. It`s the book, the peace of paper that it`s sacred per se, it`s what it`s written and the meaning of there being such a book. |
Again, I want to know why the meaning of a given religious text is sacred, but other things are not. Many fairy tales also have some sort of point that they try to teach. Why is the bible sacred, but they aren't? Is it just ebcause of the amount of people who believe in it?
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No, it`s because it contains the words from God and Jesus, along with his life. And that is defining to those who believe. That`s why we call it sacred and not just very important or very meaningful.