BenVTrigger said:
Dallinor said:
BenVTrigger said:
Dallinor said:
This is very simple. Read the bolded.
"The only franchise in the world that can hang with Halo in terms of FPS fanbase is Call of Duty."
Halo Reach =8.21 m sold.
COD: Black OPS= 24.04 million.
Roughly triple it's numbers and it's doing this annually at the moment. By the end of this gen, COD will be the best selling series in one genration ever. I think it's at 85 million plus so far this gen.
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Again your ignoring sales in comparison to individual platforms. Halo oustsells PS3 versions of COD and hangs with or outsells the 360 version of COD in every case EXCEPT for Black Ops. One game in a series is hardly comparable to the overall sales of a franchise on a console as a whole.
And are you honestly trying to compare adding up all sales for the game on every platform and compare them to the sales of an exclusive game on one? You know my point and your just playing a game of semantics. There should have been no problem in the first place I simply commented in response to someone who claimed Killzone has a currently higher player population than Halo when they aren't even close. And of course since I said anything Pro 360 related I get jumped on.
Its honestly starting to get old for the 360 fans on here and I'm a huge PS3 fan as well but I usually don't even spend time sideing with it in discussion because the debates on this site are so unbalanced someone needs to be actually complimenting 360 stuff.
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The PS3 version of Black OPS has outsold Halo Reach with less time on the market by 1.61 million. The series is growing, and it's utterly gigantic as this stage. Who would have thought a FPS on the PS3 could rival Halo?
I did compare the sales of the two series, and I think it's very telling. You were right to correct the other poster. There was never a problem, I had an issue with your original post, you stated something incorrect, so I addressed it.
It's an electronic device managed by a multibillion dollar company, you don't need to spend time defending it.
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1. Cod is a bigger franchise than Halo for sure. No one including me ever debated this. COD IS NOT a far bigger franchise per individual platform as a whole. Again one game in a series outselling the other by a significant amount isn't the same as pwning an entire franchise this should be obvious. Thing is again your comparing sales of an exclusive game to sales of a multi-plat, hardly comparable in any way shape or form.
2. There should be no problem with my original post I never said anything that wasn't true.
3. If your really trying to even insinuate that I'm someone who defends a piece of plastic and metal cause I feel any allegiance at all to it your wrong. I could care less about "teh conzolz warz" and who wins. What I AM defending are the fans of said system who quite frankly are treated pretty unfairly in many threads on this site. It has created an air of hostility to many 360 fans who are always on the defensive when discussing it and its games. Go into most 360 realted games thread and see how many times you'll see games like God of War, Killzone, Uncharted, Infamous, and countless other brougsht up even when said thread is firmly in the MS forums.
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1. ) Call of Duty is a bigger franchise, the start of this you did not mention a specific platform. Your fault, no one elses. Even as a specific platform, Call of Duty regularly has more people playing and has appealed to various console user bases (Something Halo couldn't accomplish, it's experience on PC was pretty miserable as a whole).
3.) You most certainly are someone who defends a piece of code and you have been for quite sometime from posts I have read from you in the past. (Halo fan to the extreme). You think that Halo has a great story and they have conveyed that well in their games. You think the sun rises and sets on Halo's amazing self.
And to jump out and say 'poor 360 fans get treated terriblez!!' give me a break, please. 360 fans that make sense and don't spew total non-sense get treated the same as Nintendo or Sony fans who don't spew total non-sense either. Some fans, who claim every game is the best graphical game on the planet (When it's clearly not) and continuously get proven wrong obviously don't get respect for obvious reasons.
The biggest problem I have witnessed with some 360 fans is that they feel that sales of a specific title (Halo is a great example) must mean that it's one of the best games to ever exist. The reality is sales have a lot more to do with marketing, type of game versus userbase, amount of games out concurrently, widespread public appeal (Moms, Dads, Kids, Teenagers, etc) random public hype more than anything truly tangible like game quality, content, etc.
For example, the 360 and Halo is an American company with American-centric advertising, sales tactics, creating an American appealed game, with limited competition on their system, on a system primarily with a US presence, that also benefitted from public hype and a quality original game with a mature enough demeanor to attract teenagers and college students and a immature enough appeal (Lack of serious blood or gore) to get the green light from parents for younger children.
Is it really any surprise that a game like Halo has sold well for two generations especially on the 360?
Compare that to the PS3 and Sony. With Euro/Japan Centric appeal and flare, with the worst sales in the American market, obviously it's not going to do as well in the FPS department. Mind you, it has it's strengths versus the 360 but FPS's aren't one of them.
The appeal that Sony has always maintained with their consoles is variety. Whether you're from Japan, Europe, America, Canada, Mexico, Africa, etc. This is probably more because of the fact that Sony has tons of studios from various locations, but regardless this is the strength of the Sony brand and always has been. It has a negative effect on sales for 'specific' titles in some cases but usually provides strong software sales on a broad sense. (Which is really the only thing that matters to them as a company).
