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kitler53 on 15 April 2011
hudsoniscool said:

i know this is a ps3 thread but with ps3 at 50 million(great milestone) 360 is probably at a liitle over 53 million right now. does anyone know if ps3 has gained on the 360 since last official numbers. damn its taken 5 years for ps3 to gain 3 million by that it could take another 5 until they are even.

  i think the averge move owner has about 2 moves so that would put the unique users at about 4 million, which i think is decent.


you're forgetting the average ps3 owner has no friends and plays with himself.

8 million shipped means 8 million unique users!



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Acevil on 15 April 2011
FinalEvangelion said:

I think fanboys in general over-analyze sunk costs.  Executives / investors view them differently than fanboys do.

 

The fact remains that Sony went from being down in the dumps at the beginning of the gen to being the #1 selling home console (on a weekly basis) at the end of the generation.  No console has ever done that.


Actually investors, do look at past ROI. Namely if investment for new project is being evaluated. Given i think it will take more then one negative ROI in the playstation brand, to mean anything. 

Anyways I'm out for sushi, I had fun arguing, see ya people.



 

Acevil on 15 April 2011
ethomaz said:

I disagree.

PS3 had today more diversity and ranked over 80 games... there are no comparison here.


I just checked gamerankings, even if I didn't count exactly perfectly. 360 had one more page worth of 80s, compared to the ps3. Could be wrong, and missed a page. Starcraft is typically the user that keeps tabs on metareviews... I dislike rating system, and personally think the ps3 is better. 



 

justinian on 15 April 2011
Acevil said:
FinalEvangelion said:

I think fanboys in general over-analyze sunk costs.  Executives / investors view them differently than fanboys do.

 

The fact remains that Sony went from being down in the dumps at the beginning of the gen to being the #1 selling home console (on a weekly basis) at the end of the generation.  No console has ever done that.


Actually investors, do look at past ROI. Namely if investment for new project is being evaluated. Given i think it will take more then one negative ROI in the playstation brand, to mean anything. 

Anyways I'm out for sushi, I had fun arguing, see ya people.


Yes, ROI is a big part of how successful a company is but not the only measure. It gets too complicated to go into all that and I need to be off but remember one thing, the true success of PS3 - or any console - can only be truly measure at it's end, not it's mid-life.

Enjoy your sushi.



Acevil on 15 April 2011
justinian said:
Acevil said:
FinalEvangelion said:

I think fanboys in general over-analyze sunk costs.  Executives / investors view them differently than fanboys do.

 

The fact remains that Sony went from being down in the dumps at the beginning of the gen to being the #1 selling home console (on a weekly basis) at the end of the generation.  No console has ever done that.


Actually investors, do look at past ROI. Namely if investment for new project is being evaluated. Given i think it will take more then one negative ROI in the playstation brand, to mean anything. 

Anyways I'm out for sushi, I had fun arguing, see ya people.


Yes, ROI is a big part of how successful a company is but not the only measure. It gets too complicated to go into all that and I need to be off but remember one thing, the true success of PS3 - or any console - can only be truly measure at it's end, not it's mid-life.

Enjoy your sushi.

Well other evaluations exist, but I think people seem to use HW sales measurement way to much to say a product is successful. Factors of success has a lot of evaluations, with profit being the centric measurement. 


I am waiting for friend to go to sushi, so I said I am out! :P



 

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M.U.G.E.N on 15 April 2011
kitler53 said:
hudsoniscool said:

i know this is a ps3 thread but with ps3 at 50 million(great milestone) 360 is probably at a liitle over 53 million right now. does anyone know if ps3 has gained on the 360 since last official numbers. damn its taken 5 years for ps3 to gain 3 million by that it could take another 5 until they are even.

  i think the averge move owner has about 2 moves so that would put the unique users at about 4 million, which i think is decent.


you're forgetting the average ps3 owner has no friends and plays with himself.

8 million shipped means 8 million unique users!


ps3 owners don't have partners confirmedz!



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ethomaz on 15 April 2011
kowenicki said:
ethomaz said:
Acevil said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Acevil said:
Euphoria14 said:

Just my take on what CGI said, if of course it hasn't been mentioned.

The rebound of the PS3 this gen does have a very good chance of insuring a strong future for the Playstation brand and this is why I think it is so.

 

Regardless of what happened at the start the PS3 has the chance right now to finish off this generation as the strongest console sales wise and library wise. Coming into what could be the home stretch the PS3 looks to be the strongest.

Finishing strong helps at the start of next gen rather than the strong start from the others.

 

PS3 could have the momentum going into the next generation, especially now with their stacked 1st party.


I don't necessarily disagree with CGI, however I don't think it will be the strongest console sales wise or library wise at the end of this generation.

It seems library wise 360 is considered winning and greatly so, while sales wise, it would be hard to beat nintendo. If any manufacture comes out looking the strongest I would think it would be microsoft with renewed third party relations. In terms of momentum, I wouldn't know exactly, since it seems generations don't necessarily carry momentums, when you have stiff competition.

However, being a fan of the product, I would most likely buy sony's next generation product in a heart beat (after one full year :P).


I typed a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG response to you about ps3 and NGP etc etc...only for VGC to eff up and it vanished :( lol i'm too lazy to type it all again so yeah lol I'll leave it at that

just curious why is 360 winning library wise?

I was sort of confused on what metric the user was using, but in terms of the only measurable metric, I would say software sales seem stronger, but I thought it might be about quality titles as well, which I assumed that 360 still has more titles ranked 80 , 90 compared to ps3, but I don't like the rating method. 

I disagree.

PS3 had today more diversity and ranked over 80 games... there are no comparison here.


over 80 games as per metacritic you mean?  

LOL... yeah in metacritic... PS3 has more games scored over 80 metascores (the list show a little more 360 games but you have to remove the DLC content to real numbers).



S.T.A.G.E. on 15 April 2011
Acevil said:
Euphoria14 said:

Just my take on what CGI said, if of course it hasn't been mentioned.

The rebound of the PS3 this gen does have a very good chance of insuring a strong future for the Playstation brand and this is why I think it is so.

 

Regardless of what happened at the start the PS3 has the chance right now to finish off this generation as the strongest console sales wise and library wise. Coming into what could be the home stretch the PS3 looks to be the strongest.

Finishing strong helps at the start of next gen rather than the strong start from the others.

 

PS3 could have the momentum going into the next generation, especially now with their stacked 1st party.


I don't necessarily disagree with CGI at, however I don't think it will be the strongest console sales wise or library wise at the end of this generation.

It seems library wise 360 is considered winning and greatly so (Given I am sort of confused what metric you are using for this), while sales wise, it would be hard to beat nintendo. If any manufacture comes out looking the strongest I would think it would be microsoft with renewed third party relations. In terms of momentum, I wouldn't know exactly, since it seems generations don't necessarily carry momentums, when you have stiff competition.

However, being a fan of the product, I would most likely buy sony's next generation product in a heart beat (after one full year :P).


The 360 no longer has the strongest library. They were overtaken in sales and numbers of high profile titles by Sony quite a while ago. The problem with Microsoft is that they lack new high profile IP's.



Troll_Whisperer on 15 April 2011

Congrats PS3. It's doing quite well now, I hope it does 50 more million, though that seems unlikely now. 80 plus million should be easy though. It's good that the PS brand is in good shape before the start of the next generation.

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TheSource on 15 April 2011

The 480m figure for software is wrong - someone hacked / miscalculated Sony's figures for the September 2010 quarter, raising the total by 16m units. About a month ago the latest Q2 figure changed to 51.9m units on Sony's documentation http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3soft_sale_e.html. Q3 is the December quarter, and we all know it wasn't a mere 15% bigger than the September quarter with GT5 & COD: Black Ops doing 13m or whatever on PS3 alone, plus the usual holiday rises and other big titles.

PS3 SW shipments were 350.5m through September 2010 - see the official shipment results thread, on a 35m quarter and then 57.6m games shipped in the December 2010 quarter, for 408.2m units lifetime. Actually, someone probably just did 408m instead of 480m for December 2010 figures lifetime. Given Sony's errors I'd imagine through March 2011, PS3 software shipments are 430m - 440m units lifetime.



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