Omg, most obscene post ever. Grow up man.

Just watched that Bonus Round section -- or at least the first part.

A couple of things I took away.
1. It is old -- like 6-8 weeks old (pre SMG release).
2. Patcher actually made a good point. That's one.
3. Surprised that N'Groi (the Newsweek guy) made the point about Wii sales dropping in Japan when ALL sales were dropping in Japan and Wii was still the top home console (other than price drop weeks).

Will watch the rest later.

Mike from Morgantown

Except that it is. To cut and paste from another thread:

The notion that Wii third party games don't sell well is a total myth. They've sold quite well from the very launch of the system to the present. Not "sell well considering they're low-quality games", just sell well period. Let's compare Wii third party sales to PS3 third party sales; after all, both consoles launched at exactly the same time.

Wii Million Sellers (4)
Mario and Sonic (1.46m)
Resident Evil 4 (1.18m)
Rayman Raving Rabbids (1.17m)
Red Steel (1.03m)
(Guitar Hero 3 is at 0.99m, but I'll be nice and not count it!)

PS3 Million Sellers (2)
Call of Duty 4 (1.15m)
Assassin's Creed (1.13m)

Looks like the Wii is doing much better there. How about 500k sellers?

Wii 500k Sellers (11)
Mario and Sonic (1.46m)
Resident Evil 4 (1.18m)
Rayman Raving Rabbids (1.17m)
Red Steel (1.03m)
Guitar Hero 3 (990k)
Sonic and the Secret Rings (790k)
Tiger Woods 07 (750k)
Cooking Mama (550k)
My Sims (550k)
Trauma Center (510k)
Umbrella Chronicles (500k)
Total: 9.48m

PS3 500k Sellers (10)
Call of Duty 4 (1.15m)
Assassin's Creed (1.13m)
FIFA 08 (800k)
Pro Evo 2008 (670k)
Need for Speed Carbon (640k)
Ridge Racer 7 (610k)
Need for Speed Prostreet (600k)
Madden 08 (580k)
Oblivion (550k)
Call of Duty 3 (530k)
Total: 7.26m

Not as dominant, true, but certainly no worse than the PS3 has done. Even though the Wii third party efforts have obviously been much worse than their PS3 counterparts, the Wii has actually done better in overall sales. And that's ignoring the fact that Nintendo has NINE first-party million sellers! (Sony only has two.)

Contrary to what its detractors would like to believe, the Wii moves a lot of software. Not just Nintendo software either - it sells games, period. Most third parties have done quite well, although you'd never get that impression from reading Internet message boards. Overall, I've seen absolutely nothing to indicate that the Wii won't follow the DS's lifetime trend for third party support, which goes something like this:

Year 1: almost entirely first party
Year 2: some third party support
Year 3: majority of third party support

For the DS, those years were 2005/06/07. For the Wii, it will be 2007/08/09. It has nothing to do with fanboyism; this is a business, and third parties must support the platform with the largest install base to make money. We watched the early stages of this play out in 2007, and we'll see it further develop over the next two years.

I think the funny thing is the fact a lot of people who believe in Microsofts Bs, ignore the total crap fest that has come out on the Wii, Hypocrites!!!! And what determines a succesfull selling game on the wii any way, i have heard it can cost anything between 1m to 10m to make a wii game. For example Zak and Wiky, is fairly low budget, so even if it costs 5m, it only needs to turn over like 200,000 in sails to break even, this game aint even out in Europe yet, and out here we love point and click adventures.

I think in the end, 3rd party's are benefiting from a lot of thier crappy games, and alot of these analysts, journalists are looking from the outside in and don't know jack s#!t. And haven't Microsofts own first party games sold better than any 3rd Party game to date on thier own systems (gears of war 4m+, halo gazillion!!!) total retards.!!

It don't really matter how well nintendo do, people will keep moving the goal posts further apart from them. B4 the Wii Launched "oh, this will fail, they are non factor in this gen"
after "What a fad, will stop selling soon"
and Now "Third party games do not sell well"
This will happen all the way till the end of this gen. Funny though! seems that nintendo are the only ones laughing!

Hey everybody you should check-out the post created by "Oyvoyvoyv" called:

3rd party support for Wii is going fairly well.

Wow.. that is really sour grapes from Microsoft, but at least they admit they have failed.

@ Mummelman

wow, that is obscene!