But the pop out effect is what 3D is.  That is one of the 3 dimensions.

First off, for those of you who don't know me well, I am a massive Wii fan.  Unless you have been living under a rock, I am sure that you are aware that the Wii's sales have been dipping.  I will not buy a 3DS because I would start buying games for it instead of the Wii and this would take away from the Wii's software sales.  This might not sound like much but it is.  Look at my collection if you don't believe me.  I still need to add like 20 more games.

Both are Nintendo handhelds, Nintendo makes profit on software sales of both. What does you wanting more games have to do with the 3D feature anyways?

The 3DS is supposed to have awesome 3rd party support.  To hell with that.  If I were to support them I'd be selling out.  I like supporting systems with little to no 3rd party support.  That's why I am such am big Wii and N64 fan.  I'd rather buy five Nintendo games than support developers that didn't give a diddly squat about Nintendo until the 3DS.  Super Street Fighter IV would've been great for Nintendo fans a year ago, Capcom.

Selling out? Getting more games on one console is selling out? So if you don't want to support a game just because it's third party, then just don't buy it. Why does the system have to lack third party support? More third party games mean a larger library to choose from. Many people skip out Nintendo consoles just because it lacks support. A Nintendo console with great first and third party support is the ultimate console for many gamers.

Speaking of the N64, wasn't it supposed to have 3D graphics?  Well...  wasn't it?  If not, it looks like I was ripped off.  Let me guess, this is a better form of 3D and 15 years from now Nintendo will show off an even better form of 3D and act like this 3D didn't exist.  Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me twice, shame on me.  I won't be fooled again.

So? Thanks to rapid improvements in technology, 3D is way better now than it ever was. Won't be long before it is near perfection. This isn't the 90s. And the N64 wasn't even marketed on 3D. Nintendo learnt from their Virtual Boy mistake. They are using 3D because it is the stage where it can be implemented well.

Also, I'm sick of getting the same crap.  I mean really... I already own the best game that will be released on the system or will there be a better game than Ocarina of Time on it?  I highly doubt it.  There's also Rayman 3D coming out for the system which is actually a 3D enhanced version of Rayman 2: The Great Escape that came out in 2000 for the Dreamcast and Splinter Cell 3D which is just a fancy name for Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory which came out in 2005.

It's just launch games. The system hasn't even reached a year in lifetime yet. You are acting like you know for a fact that all will be coming out are remakes and rehashes for all it's lifetime. Obviously we are going to get good game being released throught-out the coming years.

There also just isn't enough time in the day.  Between working, gaming on the Wii, and having sex I barely have enough time to eat, shower and sleep.  How in the world would I have time for the 3DS?  The answer is that I wouldn't.  You guys should follow suit.

This makes no sense, what does you not having enough time to play games on more than one console have to do with 3D not doing 'it' for you? And why should others follow suit?

Me buying this handheld would also be a betrayal to the magnificent 2D renaissance that is going on.  Awesome platformers like New Super Mario Bros. Wii, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Kirby's Epic Yarn, and Wario Land.

So because the system has a 3D feature, they can't make platformers on it? Of course they can, why would 3D deter from 2D games? It won't.

3D and several other lets make a barren game with bitchin' looking 3D environments games.

So if, hypothetically, SMG2 was 3D on Wii, the environments would be barren? Just because of 3D?

In conclusion, if I want to see a beautiful 3D environment, I'll step outside.  I play games to escape from reality and not to be like reality.  Am I the only one that feels this way?

3D doesn't make games realistic. Art direction and  the gameplay does, so I don't see how 3D would affect that.

And so...that is why I think your OP was full of bull. =)

you have the 3DS?

i do, and i RARELY see any pop out at all, there is way more fo a depth than any pop out ever used.  the closest something seems is screen level, but stuff falls back into the distanace more.  its like the 3ds' top screen is a box and were looking into it.

that is not poping out, its depth.

why are the people that don't have a 3ds the ones that are most vocal about how it is a gimmick and ruins gaming.  it was same story with wii and motion.  all the "cool" people who don't even own it are bashing it

I will respond to the underlined.

Both the Wii and the 3DS are Nintendo handhelds?  You learn something new every day.  Nevertheless Nintendo does make a profit on both and wanting more games has nothing to do with the 3D feature and I never claimed that it did.

Then why put it in an OP about how you think 3D is useless?

Why would I want third party support like this handheld is getting?  Most of what I am seeing from 3rd parties are games that were released years ago, 2D fighters for a 3D system (this is being told that you can kiss your dream girl after your tongue is cut out), and games based off of a minigame from another game like Resident Evil: Mercenaries 3D.

Yeah, I already adressed this. They are launch games. That's what devs to when ANY new system is released. They port games to it. And what si the problem with 2D fighters on a 3D system? It's not THAT kind of 3D. You must be confusing the two.

The N64 was marketed as being 3D.  Trust me on this one.  Super Mario 64 was being  hailed the first truly 3D platforming experience.  3D tech is not close to perfect.  Step outside.  That's perfect.  God is better than any programmer.

I think you are confusing the 3D Super mario was marketed on and the 3D 3Ds is marketed on.

Super Mario was marketing on the 3D where you play in a 3D environment. It's like SMBii and SMG2.

SMBii is 2D, you can only move left and right plus jump. SMG2 you cant move in a 360% around you. That's the 3D Super Mario 64 was marketed on, not the same 3D as 3DS. Completely different things.

Yeah.  Obviously we know that this system will get good 3rd party games.  Look at Nintendo's track record for that sort of thing.

Like I said, I don't have enough time.  I wanted to be an astronaut and a race car driver when I was young but didn't have the time so I settled on playing Wii games.  Follow suit so you don't waste your entire life playing video games.

So what if someone is a handheld only gamer/primarily a handheld gamer? I don't even see how this applies to the thread title.

The 3D feature either is going to ensure that the majority of the games released for the handheld are 3D.  Either that or your going to pay a lot of money for a feature that you're not going to use.  Either way, it stinks.

3D platformers are in nature more barren than 2D ones because they are 3D.  2D platformers are much more tricky due to numerous jumps and devious level design because running for half a minute in one would be boring. 

That has NOTHING to do with 3D/handheld systems. It's all up to the developer. That's the point.

Art direction and gameplay make a game realistic?  Okay, that's fine.  I was just saying that I like my games to be less realistic.  If I want true realism, then I'll go outside.

If you think 3D somehow makes games more realistic, then what do you think of motion controls on Wii?

You seem to love Wii so much so you must like motion controls where you actually do more realistic motions instead of pressing a button.

That is why my OP is not full of bull  =) 

Your OP is still full of bull.

Your problem doesn't seem to be the 3D like the thread title says. Your problem seems to be either you prefer home consoles over handheld systems or you don't have time to commit to both a console and  a handheld.

Plus your confusion between the N64 3D and the 3DS 3D.

The 3D on 3DS doesn't mean it's for 3D environment games only like you seem to think. 2D games can be done on 3D...

That's it?  You can get a sense of depth on any modern home console since the PS1.  I hope that it's better than you're explaining it.

I am not cool at all by that definition.  I love the "toy" known as the Wii and play it constantly. 

Man, you are full of it. You are mad at the 3DS, because it's getting the third party support that the Wii could only dream of. Now you are trying to look for all sorts of excuses to justify that you are still playing the Wii with arguments like you have sex and therefore not the time for a 3DS. Get real, man. You can either be stubborn and keep playing your Wii games that came out years ago or you can purchase a shiny new 3DS that will introduce you to the magnificient world of 3D gaming.

I am not going to buy Ocarina of Time 3D either, simply because I think it is one of the worst Zelda games ever made. The thing is that the 3DS is going to get plenty of original games down the line and you are really missing out by being so dismissive. The 3D of the 3DS is very impressive, I have seen it with my own eyes. You are just like the people who kept saying that the Wii is all about dumbed down games in which you just waggle in order to win. No clue about the system you are talking about, but passing it off as if you do.

Yeah.  I could pay for and play Ocarina of Time again and pretend that it wasn't supposedly 3D the first time.