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AussieGecko on 24 February 2011
Beuli2 said:

KA wasn't the only one that has lifted.


err you said US is the only place it still has good support... after this week... which increased in said area... what arent you getting?



 

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psrock on 24 February 2011
Michael-5 said:
psrock said:
Michael-5 said:
pezus said:
XanderZane said:
Skeeuk said:
ethomaz said:

And Gran Turismo 5...

Last week: 23,542

This week: 31,071

UP 31%

HO HO HO HO HO 

Now waiting GT5 adjustments in EMEAA.


it should be adjusted soon enough, to think the game is still full price in retailers so it must be trickling along for them to not drop the price

I've seen the price dropped. It was $39.99 last week at Fry's Electronics. It's still not going to catch GT3 and GT4 in sales. The only play it still selling is in EMEA and it's only selling about 25-30K a week and that will drop significantly as summer approaches. Unless Sony decides to bundle it again (don't know why they would do that with KZ3, Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3 out for the holidays), I don't think it'll break 9 million overall.

You have obviously not looked at the Americas numbers.

17k for the week ending Feb 12th. Barely made the top 40. Not too strong, but Americas should add 1-2 million more to LTD sales.

Michael, you are wrong, you keep being wrong and will continue to be wrong. Let it go already, this is getting emabarrassing. And GT4 has shipped over 11 million copies. 

Yes your right, they must have shipped recently. Before GT4 was at 10.85 million shipped, now it's at 11.19 million shipped. However according to VGC 10.61 million have been sold.

Also how am I wrong? Week ending Feb 12th, GT5 sold 17k. What the heck are you talking about? My message was pretty clean and non offending, why do you want to insult and demean me for it?

Americas adding 1-2 million to LTD sales is wrong? 1.5 million more and GT5 will match GT4 shippments in Americas, this was a very general comment, stop trying to give me an image.

I may have been harsh on you, my bad. After reading the GT5  will fail thread, you had made some good point and expected GT5 to sell 8.5 million which is fine, still wrong though. 



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Michael-5 on 24 February 2011
psrock said:
Michael-5 said:
psrock said:
Michael-5 said:
pezus said:
XanderZane said:

I've seen the price dropped. It was $39.99 last week at Fry's Electronics. It's still not going to catch GT3 and GT4 in sales. The only play it still selling is in EMEA and it's only selling about 25-30K a week and that will drop significantly as summer approaches. Unless Sony decides to bundle it again (don't know why they would do that with KZ3, Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3 out for the holidays), I don't think it'll break 9 million overall.

You have obviously not looked at the Americas numbers.

17k for the week ending Feb 12th. Barely made the top 40. Not too strong, but Americas should add 1-2 million more to LTD sales.

Michael, you are wrong, you keep being wrong and will continue to be wrong. Let it go already, this is getting emabarrassing. And GT4 has shipped over 11 million copies. 

Yes your right, they must have shipped recently. Before GT4 was at 10.85 million shipped, now it's at 11.19 million shipped. However according to VGC 10.61 million have been sold.

Also how am I wrong? Week ending Feb 12th, GT5 sold 17k. What the heck are you talking about? My message was pretty clean and non offending, why do you want to insult and demean me for it?

Americas adding 1-2 million to LTD sales is wrong? 1.5 million more and GT5 will match GT4 shippments in Americas, this was a very general comment, stop trying to give me an image.

I may have been harsh on you, my bad. After reading the GT5  will fail thread, you had made some good point and expected GT5 to sell 8.5 million which is fine, still wrong though. 

Later I changed my prediction to 9.4 million, and it's in a thread about stating predictions for GT5. Now I think it will sell between 8.5-9.4 million. From what I read on VGC, my prediction is looking correct. You may disagree, but thats your opinion, which is no more right then mine. Until GT5 stops being shipped, neither of us can be right, unless it sells over 9.4 million like I believe.



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binary solo on 25 February 2011

LBP2 should boost next week. Price has been slashed this week, well it has here at least.



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ethomaz on 25 February 2011
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
XanderZane said:
Skeeuk said:
ethomaz said:

And Gran Turismo 5...

Last week: 23,542

This week: 31,071

UP 31%

HO HO HO HO HO 

Now waiting GT5 adjustments in EMEAA.


it should be adjusted soon enough, to think the game is still full price in retailers so it must be trickling along for them to not drop the price

I've seen the price dropped. It was $39.99 last week at Fry's Electronics. It's still not going to catch GT3 and GT4 in sales. The only play it still selling is in EMEA and it's only selling about 25-30K a week and that will drop significantly as summer approaches. Unless Sony decides to bundle it again (don't know why they would do that with KZ3, Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3 out for the holidays), I don't think it'll break 9 million overall.

It may break 9 million, but not anytime soon. At this rate though, without bundling, 9 million seems to be a maximum. Still amazing, double Forza 3.

U wanna bet? It may break 9 million early 2012 and 10 million late 2012.

Actually sure, I'll bet. Avatar/Signature Control for 2 weeks?

Lets bet if GT5 will break 9 million units sold by the week ending March 3rd 2012. So the week ending March 3rd 2012, if GT5 is at 8,999,999 sales or less I win, and if it's 9,000,000 or over, you win.

Also were using initial VGC data. If they change the number from 8.99 to 9.00 million a week later or vice versa, the original data will be taken.

Sound good? Also Avatars/Signatures should be clean.

Quote me on this please.

The only point now is VGC had GT5 undetracked now in EMEAA... why will it not be at March 2012?

My  bet was:

March 2012: over 9 million by PD
December 2012: over 10 million by PD

But I can bet with you with VGC numbers:

March 2012: over 8.5 million by PD
December 2012: over 9.5 million by PD



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Yakuzaice on 25 February 2011
Michael-5 said:

Shipped values are irrelevent, you should know that, whatever isn't sold is shipped back. Also GT4 only sold 10.61 million units, and shipped 10.85 million, so for GT5 to break 10 million sales, it would need to sell about 85% as well to break 10 million. It's stabilizing at 66% or so.

Also, you asked me to name game game which shipped 6.4 million in a month, but sold less then 10 million lifetime. Modern Warfare 2 for PS3. Also note, they both were released in the peak holiday sales period.

Considering VGC often adjusts their numbers based on shipments I'd say they are fairly relevant.  It's not like the weekly numbers should be taken as gospel and never changed.

Also MW2 has a pretty decent chance of breaking 10 million.  Plus GT5 won't have a sequel a year later.  Also for some reason VGC has MW2 360 outselling the PS3 version more than 3:1 in America this year.  Not sure if that is a case of undertracking or overtracking, but it could help make a difference.  Or maybe it is correct, but it seems rather odd.



Michael-5 on 25 February 2011
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
XanderZane said:
Skeeuk said:
ethomaz said:

And Gran Turismo 5...

Last week: 23,542

This week: 31,071

UP 31%

HO HO HO HO HO 

Now waiting GT5 adjustments in EMEAA.


it should be adjusted soon enough, to think the game is still full price in retailers so it must be trickling along for them to not drop the price

I've seen the price dropped. It was $39.99 last week at Fry's Electronics. It's still not going to catch GT3 and GT4 in sales. The only play it still selling is in EMEA and it's only selling about 25-30K a week and that will drop significantly as summer approaches. Unless Sony decides to bundle it again (don't know why they would do that with KZ3, Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3 out for the holidays), I don't think it'll break 9 million overall.

It may break 9 million, but not anytime soon. At this rate though, without bundling, 9 million seems to be a maximum. Still amazing, double Forza 3.

U wanna bet? It may break 9 million early 2012 and 10 million late 2012.

Actually sure, I'll bet. Avatar/Signature Control for 2 weeks?

Lets bet if GT5 will break 9 million units sold by the week ending March 3rd 2012. So the week ending March 3rd 2012, if GT5 is at 8,999,999 sales or less I win, and if it's 9,000,000 or over, you win.

Also were using initial VGC data. If they change the number from 8.99 to 9.00 million a week later or vice versa, the original data will be taken.

Sound good? Also Avatars/Signatures should be clean.

Quote me on this please.

The only point now is VGC had GT5 undetracked now in EMEAA... why will it not be at March 2012?

My  bet was:

March 2012: over 9 million by PD
December 2012: over 10 million by PD

But I can bet with you with VGC numbers:

March 2012: over 8.5 million by PD
December 2012: over 9.5 million by PD

Polyphony Digital only lists units sold to retailers (aka shipped). I don't think judging how well a game is selling based of shipped figures makes any sense. Also because EMEAA is such a broad region, I feel this game is being overshipped to all retailers in case one country has the game selling particularly well.

I say, lets bet using VGC numbers (8.5 million by March 3rd, 2012, 9.5 million by the last week of December 2012). 2 weeks of Avatar/Sig control for each of the bets?

Deal? I won't forget this bet.



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Michael-5 on 25 February 2011
Yakuzaice said:
Michael-5 said:

Shipped values are irrelevent, you should know that, whatever isn't sold is shipped back. Also GT4 only sold 10.61 million units, and shipped 10.85 million, so for GT5 to break 10 million sales, it would need to sell about 85% as well to break 10 million. It's stabilizing at 66% or so.

Also, you asked me to name game game which shipped 6.4 million in a month, but sold less then 10 million lifetime. Modern Warfare 2 for PS3. Also note, they both were released in the peak holiday sales period.

Considering VGC often adjusts their numbers based on shipments I'd say they are fairly relevant.  It's not like the weekly numbers should be taken as gospel and never changed.

Also MW2 has a pretty decent chance of breaking 10 million.  Plus GT5 won't have a sequel a year later.  Also for some reason VGC has MW2 360 outselling the PS3 version more than 3:1 in America this year.  Not sure if that is a case of undertracking or overtracking, but it could help make a difference.  Or maybe it is correct, but it seems rather odd.

Yea, but MW2 also sold a lot better after the holiday season, GT5 is selling 50k worldwide, where GT4 sold 90k at the same time. Also in Americas, there are almost 2:1 360's to PS3's, so a high ratio should be expected. In EMEAA PS3 to 360 ratio is almost equal, so numbers could be off there too.

Shipped values are relavents, but the 6.4 million units PD shipped, were shipped at the end of December, and no new large scale shipments have been made 2 months later. It's still 6.4 million on PD. This is why shipped values are bad to go off of, how long until PD ships more units? Do I take 6.4 million units as the number of units being sold as od December 2010, or February 2011, or May 2011? That makes a big difference when looking at how well the game is doing.



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ethomaz on 25 February 2011
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
ethomaz said:
Michael-5 said:
XanderZane said:
Skeeuk said:
ethomaz said:

And Gran Turismo 5...

Last week: 23,542

This week: 31,071

UP 31%

HO HO HO HO HO 

Now waiting GT5 adjustments in EMEAA.


it should be adjusted soon enough, to think the game is still full price in retailers so it must be trickling along for them to not drop the price

I've seen the price dropped. It was $39.99 last week at Fry's Electronics. It's still not going to catch GT3 and GT4 in sales. The only play it still selling is in EMEA and it's only selling about 25-30K a week and that will drop significantly as summer approaches. Unless Sony decides to bundle it again (don't know why they would do that with KZ3, Infamous 2 and Uncharted 3 out for the holidays), I don't think it'll break 9 million overall.

It may break 9 million, but not anytime soon. At this rate though, without bundling, 9 million seems to be a maximum. Still amazing, double Forza 3.

U wanna bet? It may break 9 million early 2012 and 10 million late 2012.

Actually sure, I'll bet. Avatar/Signature Control for 2 weeks?

Lets bet if GT5 will break 9 million units sold by the week ending March 3rd 2012. So the week ending March 3rd 2012, if GT5 is at 8,999,999 sales or less I win, and if it's 9,000,000 or over, you win.

Also were using initial VGC data. If they change the number from 8.99 to 9.00 million a week later or vice versa, the original data will be taken.

Sound good? Also Avatars/Signatures should be clean.

Quote me on this please.

The only point now is VGC had GT5 undetracked now in EMEAA... why will it not be at March 2012?

My  bet was:

March 2012: over 9 million by PD
December 2012: over 10 million by PD

But I can bet with you with VGC numbers:

March 2012: over 8.5 million by VGC
December 2012: over 9.5 million by VGC

Polyphony Digital only lists units sold to retailers (aka shipped). I don't think judging how well a game is selling based of shipped figures makes any sense. Also because EMEAA is such a broad region, I feel this game is being overshipped to all retailers in case one country has the game selling particularly well.

I say, lets bet using VGC numbers (8.5 million by March 3rd, 2012, 9.5 million by the last week of December 2012). 2 weeks of Avatar/Sig control for each of the bets?

Deal? I won't forget this bet.

What? You really belive that?

 I make a mistake in two last lines... the real one:

March 2012: over 8.5 million by VGC
December 2012: over 9.5 million by VGC

So I wanna bet.. just the date is March 31th and we will wait some weeks to se if VGC make any adjustments based in shippment figures.

I bet with real end of March numbers... not undertracked by VGC like now.



Beuli2 on 25 February 2011
AussieGecko said:
Beuli2 said:

KA wasn't the only one that has lifted.


err you said US is the only place it still has good support... after this week... which increased in said area... what arent you getting?

That every other game got a boost? KA! (or Kinect for the matter) didn't magically got popular there, every game has gone up this week (and consoles as well). Someone on another thread said there were temporary pricecuts or something.



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