I cant believe nobody sees this.... Maybe its my fault i didnt expres my self correctly

It directly affects his point in the way that NES was already supposed to have a CD drive via its partisanship with Sony, and Sony wouldn't even thought of making the PS1 if it weren't from the back-stab and humiliation it suffered from Nintendo.

If anything  his point should have been something like:  "if Nintendo didn't back stab Sony and went with Philips we probably wouldn't see the PS1. So we should be thankful Nintendo back-stabbed Sony" Plus the humilation Sony President Ohga suffered from Nintendo pretty much inspired him to go ahead with the project. You see honor is a big thing for the Japanese. Ever heard of the term Seppuku aka harakiri?

Had he/she said that (he/she) would have had much stronger and more importantly irrefutable point, you see im not completely against his idea its just the way he presented was funny (ironic?) to say the least. If Nintendo never intended to work with sony and sony was going to make a PS1 for the sixth gen anyways then his points would have made more sense. See where im going at?

And like some others have mentioned apart from CD drive there were a number of other factors that made the PS1 dominant, a quick trip to the wiki can tell you that ;)

Everybody stop thinking it will outsell the 3ds, because if enough people believe it, it won't happen. Everybody keep believing that the 3ds will trounce it, so the psp2 will win.

I love Sega dearly, but they couldn't manage their way out of a paper bag.  More and more, I think Genesis was simply a fluke.  Also, how well do you really think a cart only Saturn would've done with $60 games and a fraction the 3rd party support?

Frankly I think more 3rd party devs are going to put more effort into NGP then 3DS, when it comes to nintendo consoles/handheld, no 3rd party ever even comes close to the sucess of Nintendo always overshadowed and always with the cartoony graphics, NGP is said to be really easy to dev for, personally I think NGP will see alot more innovation when it comes to games and a ton of new IPs, I mean the NPG is the ideal platform for anyone who wants to advance in the industry or even start, the Idevices are fine for flash level and a little above games but they are nothing compared to the handhelds so anyone who wants to be taken seriously in terms of core games and maybe even work their way to full console games is going to be looking at the NGP, where the 3DS will be more like a sales grab to 3rd parties and not really care about the quality of the game as long as it sells (we've seen it on the DS)

Er, I think you pretty much entirely misunderstood my statement... I wasn't saying a CD-ROM based N64 would've precluded PS2 happening because Sony would've worked with Nintendo, I was saying a CD-ROM based N64 would've precluded PS2 happening because such a system would've held on to Nintendo's overwhelming developer support and likely crushed PS1. Not that the media alone was at issue with Nintendo and 3rd parties, but it was definitely biggest wedge and what ultimately led the mass exodus of developer support to PlayStation.

Also, Sony was always keen to get in on the games hardware market one way or another.  They co-developed the MSX standard with Microsoft and other firms, they lambasted their engineers for not coming up with something like the Game Boy before Nintendo did, and they tried getting deals going with both Sega and Nintendo in order to get a piece of their royalty pie.  Nintendo's "backstab" was even self-preservation in the end anyway, Sony's lawyers basically wrote into the deal that Sony would retain 100% of the royalties off SNES CD-ROM software, effectively cutting Nintendo out of their own platform.  That's the only reason why Nintendo struck the deal with Phillips in response, which itself ultimately went nowhere.

Carts were the straw that broke the camel's back.  Sure, there were other issues (there always are) but the financial roadblocks that mask-ROM brought are specifically what kept N64 from inheriting SFC's development priority.  A CD-ROM based N64 would've gotten FFVII, DQVII and probably about every major 3rd party game, no question.

If not for that, the support and software lineup you saw on PS1 would've looked a lot like the support and software lineup you saw for Saturn.  Only with a weaker 1st party side of things.

Hell no; people don't seem to understand the weight of stereo 3D.

No 3rd party on ANY platform comes close to Nintendo's level, or ever has really. It's an almost impossible standard, and one that sort of overlooks that when 3rd parties put in the effort on a Nintendo system (like they did on NES, SNES and DS) they generally did just fine. If "Nintendo level" is what they should expect, it's not like they're making it on any PlayStation or Xbox system either.

Also, it's not like 3rd parties banked on PSP either... if Nintendo's reputation is going to make 3rd parties apprehensive about a "sure thing" platform like 3DS, what do you think PSP's disastrous western software market is going to do to NGP commitments?

Of course, just looking at the actual developer commitments already shows this isn't going to be the case anyway.  Capcom, Tecmo Koei, Level 5 and other 3rd parties are already going all in on 3DS, despite the "threat" of Nintendo's shadow...

Those guys usually make games on all portables and they are making games for ngp too so I don't see how thats an advantage for 3DS and it's not just who is putting games on the platform it's the quality and uniqueness of the games, like I already mentioned the games can end up being quick cash grabs, and that the ngp is going to have more innovation and uniqueness from 3rd parties 

 I think this is possible, but more because I'm just a skeptic on how well the 3DS is going to be received. I have alot of doubts over the 3D, and whether a pure gaming device with (At least to me) little functionality outside of gaming still has a future since the uprising in phone / hybrid devices. I'm just not sure whether the market as a whole is heading in that direction to be honest.

 Either way, I don't see either of these handhelds flying off the shelves to begin with and I think the 3DS is really struggling with a $250 pricepoint. I can't see parents buying each of their kids a $250 handheld for Christmas or someone like my sister, who plays Layton and Tetris on her DS, being too keen to splash out £200 to play puzzle games in 3D...

 I'm a skeptic on the NGP too (Albeit that's the handheld I'm going to buy personally) but it's hard to imagine the PSP successor setting the world alight given the state of the PSP now. If the whole trend of hybrid device, ioS stuff is really the future though I think NGP is better placed to carve its own market in that place. Maybe that's still a good 5-10 years off though *Shrug*.